Conservative Washington Times Blasts Albo/Rust/GOP "Abuser Fees"

By: Lowell
Published On: 7/2/2007 9:01:33 AM

One of the most scathing editorials I've seen on the new Virginia "abuser fees" that kicked in yesterday appears in today's Washington Times.  It's not pretty for those who came up with this nutty idea, most of whom are Republicans (Dave Albo and Tom Rust are culprits #1 and #2).  Here's the Washington Times:

*"This is a colossal abuse of public trust well before it is either a safety boon or a budgetary salve."

*"...$1,050 for driving 20 mph over the speed limit is predatory, tax-and-spend government at its worst."

*"Government is supposed to serve the people, not fine and tax them toward the poor house for what amounts to ordinary behavior."

The Washington Times concludes with the following, which lays the blame for this exactly where it belongs:

The story of how Virginia got here goes something like this: Downstate Republicans have repeatedly refused to compromise with Northern Virginia over transportation funding. This led Northern Virginia lawmakers to view fees as the only means of balancing revenue and spending. Not wanting to pass unpopular tax increases or cut rapidly growing but allegedly untouchable unrelated programs, lawmakers in Richmond quietly tucked this into a transportation bill. They now have the gall to complain that no one criticized the plan earlier. Meanwhile, some are calling this the "Lawyer Full Employment Act of 2007." Little wonder, since some of the idea's backers work for law firms, which will see more business as these fines increase the court caseloads.

Contempt for ordinary people is the spirit of this kind of governance. It views Virginians as lemmings, economic entities to be herded, taxed and fined into submission. Voters should not stand for it, not for a second.

"Contempt for ordinary people?"  A "Lawyer Full Employment Act?" Yes, that's what this is.  And just remember where it came from:  the Republican-controlled House of Delegates, with Dave Albo (R) and Tom Rust (R) leading the way.

As Thaddeus Furlong of Springfield, Virginia says: "When Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class find out what they have to pay, there's going to be a backlash like you've never seen."

A backlash at the polls in November, most likely.  And Republicans will have nobody to blame but themselves when they are shown the exit door by voters.


Comments



Nice try (novamiddleman - 7/2/2007 10:00:12 AM)
How many times do I have to say this KAINE WAS ALL FOR THIS.  As much as you would like to make it THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE A POX ON BOTH PARTIES


Speaking of "nice try" (Lowell - 7/2/2007 10:03:24 AM)
You can keep trying to shift the blame away from the Republican House of Delegates, including Dave Albo who pushed this idea, but it's not going to work.  The voters know who's at fault, and they also know who's up for election THIS YEAR.  (hint: it's not Tim Kaine)


Also, you might want to talk to your friends (Lowell - 7/2/2007 10:04:20 AM)
at the Washington Times.  They don't seem to be buying your counterspin.


damn (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 10:12:51 AM)
right Kaine was all for this. BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY TO GET A TRANSPORTATION BILL THOUGH. To protect his so called legacy and future career. To hell with us citizens. You know, the ones who gave him money, who worked on his campaign and oh wait-THE ONES WHO VOTED HIM INTO OFFICE.

I?m disgusted with the lot of them including our locals here in C?Ville. No more $, no more endorsements, no more campaign work. Zip, zilch, nada. And whenever I get a chance I will slam these pols for abandoning us to the wingnuts who appear to completely run this state. So someone tell me why we just didn?t go ahead and elect Jerry Kilgore?



Great comment by JMU Duke at NLS (Lowell - 7/2/2007 10:26:36 AM)
Blah blah blah..had Governor Kaine vetoed the entire package you conservatives would be delerious with rage. Devising a way to treat Virginia drivers unfairly is different than swallowing a bitter pill that goes with a large transportation compromise (which sucks I'll admit). Albo thought this up, it's his to deal with.

Exactly.  And the Republican House of Delegates more broadly. 



Last comment for know (novamiddleman - 7/2/2007 11:03:33 AM)
Really this is way too easy :-p

and where was the democrats plan again???

oh thats right they didn't have one

but wait...

kaine had one you say... oh yeah he had abuser fees as well

this is all in good fun by the way nothing personal :-)



Yes, this IS too easy. (Lowell - 7/2/2007 12:01:25 PM)
There were five relevant actors (Gov., Sen. Republicans, Sen. Dems, House Republicans, House Dems), four of whom agreed on a plan.  The only one that did NOT agree on a plan that would have raised gas taxes to finance transportation improvements was....wait for it...that's right, the House Republicans.  Case closed.


C'mon Nova (Eric - 7/2/2007 12:01:54 PM)
we've been through this one many times and I know you know it...

Kaine and the Democrats aren't blameless because they did end up deciding that this bill was better than no bill.  You'll recall many of us preferred the "no bill" option - so we aren't exactly ecstatic over what happened.

But to say that the Democrats had an equal shot at constructing their own transportation bill, or had any say about how funds would be raised to pay for this one, is completely ludicrous.  Republicans, primarily from the House, simply didn't allow alternatives and were not open to honest discussions on the matter. 

This is a Republican show and the Democrats had to either go along with it (if they wanted any transportation bill passed) or rely on the Governor's veto which would have killed the effort entirely.



By the way, why would someone call themselves (Lowell - 7/2/2007 12:09:18 PM)
"middleman" when they are so clearly a Republican partisan?


um no (novamiddleman - 7/2/2007 12:53:22 PM)
let's see here for starters

Kaine 04

Webb 06

2008 McCain but then who knows

One thing I won't handle though is hypocrisy from either party

For the record I do lean Republican.  For some strange reason I don't want my taxes raised and I want the government to run more efficiently.  Also, I don't cry about "robbing" from the general fund. 

I knew Kaine was a partisan hack from the beginning and he was and never will be even close to a shadow of Mark Warner. 



whoops should have been Kerry 04 :-p (novamiddleman - 7/2/2007 12:54:44 PM)


For some strange reason (Lowell - 7/2/2007 1:01:33 PM)
NOBODY wants their taxes raised, but that's a classic right-wing framing of the issue.  Here are the REAL choices:

1. Higher taxes/more (or better) services
2. Lower taxes/fewer (or worse) services

I opt for #1, to a degree, because I want top-notch services.  And yes, those "services" include things like a strong military (used wisely), a healthy environment, health care coverage for all Americans, and a top-notch education for every kid in this country.  I presume you're not willing to pay for any of that?



Raising (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 1:34:30 PM)
the gas tax 1 or 2 cents would bring in 50 million or so-are we saying that none of us can live with THAT?

Folks are furious-they're going to have to "revisit" this little issue.



I am more of a 2 :-p (novamiddleman - 7/2/2007 1:38:00 PM)
We have done this before

In general, yes, I think government should be smaller.  Remember, in general, I am a fiscal conservative among my many wide and varied views first.

I also think more can be done on doing some of the things you said better; which could result in cost savings. Also, limiting government roles in other areas also reduces costs.

While I hope you agree that taxes are a necessary evil, I tend to think more about how can we make program x more efficient or is it really necessary before raising taxes as a last resort.

P.S. raising taxes is still a huge issue.  There is a very strong chance that if the D is elected in 2008, taxes will be raised.  With Bush gone, that will be much harder for me to look past as I decide who to ultimately vote for. 

have a great day



Conservative Washington Times.... (voter4change - 7/2/2007 11:30:47 AM)
What if we all stayed under the speed limit.  Then no one gets caught.  The outcome of this is really in our hands.  Don't speed....Don't pay.

After saying this....watch me be the first one in our family to get a ticket. 



I (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 1:37:11 PM)
was so paranoid today I drove UNDER the speed limit like a 90 yo grandmother. And kept checking every five seconds to check on what the speed limit was. But I noticed the cops were still screaming by me.


I already drive as a grampa at the speed limit (Hugo Estrada - 7/2/2007 4:14:36 PM)
I actually have the grandmother of my children telling me that I drive too slow. :P

Still, these fees are excessive and unfair.



I'll propably get one this weekend I'll let you know what happens :-p n/t (novamiddleman - 7/2/2007 11:32:44 AM)


LOL (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 1:38:29 PM)
And I'm quite sure Albo's firm would be more than happy to take your case to get your fee reduced....


It doesn't actually matter what the democrat's plan was (Silence Dogood - 7/2/2007 3:31:30 PM)
if the House Republicans were going to shut them out of the legislative process anyway.  Kaine DID have a plan.  And it DID incorporate higher fines for misdemeanor traffic violations, though those fines weren't going to be imposed only on Virginian drivers.  But the House Majority leadership made it pretty darned clear that they only cared about House Republicans.  Not Senate Republicans.  Not Democrats.  Not Governor Kaine.  And not the citizens of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

But thanks for playing NovaMiddleMan.



Kaine wanted to fine road rage incidents (Rebecca - 7/2/2007 3:47:32 PM)
I think Kaine's idea to fine road rage incidents and agressive driving which causes accidents was a good idea. Never have I heard him advocate these types of fines.


um (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 4:02:29 PM)
WELL-he signed the bill with no muss or fuss. No sending it back for rewrite. No waiting til Setember. No refusing to sign the bill without these fines.
Kaine went for it to get a bill passed and didn't give a damn about us. I'm sure we all don't want to hear what a great man Tim Kaine is and what a friggin' terrific Democrat he is. He panders big time to the rethugs.


Q: Who wrote the law? (Bubby - 7/2/2007 4:21:21 PM)
A: The Republican majority House and Senate.

Q: Which political party believes in "fees", but hates "taxes"?
A: The Republican Party.

Q: Who is responsible for executing the Commonwealth's transportation operation, and how?
A: The Governor, using funds provided by the legislature.

When Governor Kaine suggested to the Republican legislative leadership that he wanted "a dedicated and sustainable source for transportation funding", he was not referring to $3500 speeding tickets.



Kaine (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 4:45:00 PM)
signed the bill. Period. He caved to the rethugs. Bill Howell told him if he didn't go along with the entire bill he would have hell to pay for the next 2 years. So they backed him into the corner and he caved in.

He's the governor for cryin' out loud. Obviously with no power, no compassion.

There will be hell to pay. People are pissed. So I hope it was worth it to sell out the citizens of Virginia.
Oh wait-he doesn't have to worry about getting re elected.



Have you ever met Tim Kaine? (Lowell - 7/2/2007 4:56:55 PM)
Just curious, because I find it hard to believe that if you really knew him you could say he didn't have "compassion."  Having said that, I agree with you that Kaine should have vetoed the transportation monstrosity.  You may have noticed that I was one of the voices urging him to do just that.  And, I would add, this was even BEFORE the "abuser fees" became something I was particularly aware of.  Basically, I'd assign the blame on this fiasco about 90% to the Republicans for coming up with it and ramming it through.  The other 10% goes to Gov. Kaine for not vetoing the bill or amending the abuser fees out of there.  Those are categorically NOT the way to provide a long-term, dedicated, adequate, fair and sustainable source of funding for Virginia's huge transportation needs.  If it had been put in there specifically as a means of increasing adherence to traffic laws, that would (possibly) have been a different story.  But the fees were SPECIFICALLY designed by the Republicans to raise revenues while avoid using the dreaded "t" word - taxes.  That's totally lame-ass.


Yes (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 5:19:58 PM)
Lowell. I have met Tim Kaine.  Several times, in private and have my bosses.I blame these fees on the rethugs also BUT I hate it that Tim caved into them. He needs to make this right. Because I have met him that is why I am so disappointed. I never thought he would throw us under the bus. He is a good man but I cannot believe that he did this to the citizns of Virginia.
I understand this is the rethugs. I just thought Tim had more fight in him. For us. For us that hiked miles and put door hangers on doors. Who stuffed envelopes. Who drove to Richmond. Who wrote checks. Who stood around for hours at the GA.
I am just very upset.


When you grow up... (Bubby - 7/2/2007 5:24:48 PM)
you will come to understand that successful politicians are pragmatic negotiators that know the limitations of the public mood. Pols can't take people where they don't want to go.

Currently in Virginia there is a slight majority of voters, mostly rural, that get their advice on the funding and management of government from Rush Limbaugh, Niel Boortz, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Grover Norquist, and other anti-government types.  And they vote for candidates that pledge "no taxes" - hence "user fees", and "abuser fees" have wide support. Especially when the "user" can be reliably predicted to be someone else.

If the Republican hamsters in Richmond could practice Reagan "trickledown" deficit spending, they would, I promise you, borrow all government costs against that "shining day in the future", when a rising economy magically pays off our debts. But as it is Virginia, like you and me, must balance our budget on the backs of all, or a few. 

The traffic fee fiasco is classic Republican - screw the powerless and less fortunate, and turn a tin ear to any notion of fairness or common cause...mumble some bigotry about other people's "bad habits" and "character".  To have this litigious legislation sponsored by a litigator illustrates my case. These people have no shame. They think they are better, and smarter than me and you.  You gonna take it?



Diffiult Decisions Define Leaders (AnonymousIsAWoman - 7/2/2007 5:11:48 PM)
I think the bill was terrible and we haven't heard the last of the abuser fee portion of it.  You know when your relatives from Alabama laugh at you and call your state stupid, you're in trouble.

Having said that, I think Kaine's hands were honestly tied.  If he had vetoed it, Republicans would have painted him an obstructionist and trumpeted it from every roof top.  Indeed, I think that's what at least some of them were hoping for.  There were some Republicans rubbing their hands together in glee over the thought of having no transporation bill as an election year issue.

Kaine was backed into a corner.  This was a case where the good couldn't be the enemy of the perfect.  The Republicans wrote the bill and they wrote the dumb abuser fees into it and now that even their own fellow conservatives are furious about it, they want to blame Kaine for signing it.

That's plain dishonest.



You (leftofcenter - 7/2/2007 5:23:52 PM)
know we're in trouble when folks from Alabama laugh at us.
Yikes!


It's very simple. (Susan P. - 7/2/2007 10:15:03 PM)
I won't vote for Kaine for Governor, ever again.  And I won't vote for anybody who voted for this bill.  In our area, they're all Republicans.  Actually, I probably wasn't going to vote for any of them, anyway, but I'll make sure to give this as the reason if anyone asks.