We Will Not Turn Off Our RSS Feed, But...

By: Lowell
Published On: 5/7/2007 11:21:25 AM

I was reading Ben Tribbett's diary on the reasons why he has decided to turn off his RSS feed.  While I completely sympathize and agree almost completely with his reasoning, RK will not be shutting of its RSS feed any time soon.  The reason is that we believe that most aggregators, like the excellent Lefty Blogs, are helpful to readers of progressive political blogs like RK. 

Having said that, I can personally say that I find the behavior of - as Ben calls it - "one rogue website, operated by an editor of the Virginian Pilot at night" - to be deplorable.  When a blog formally requests that they be removed from someone's aggregator, blogroll, or whatever, they should do so out of common courtesy, if nothing else.  If a blogger came to me and asked to be removed from RK's blogroll, I would honor that request. 

Sadly, in the case of this particular site, even though RK is normally ranked very high - #1 this week - I STRONGLY object to the entire methodology of this blatantly, overtly partisan Republican site (note that ad yesterday from Ann Coulter, and today from Rudy Giuliani, plus the ).  Obviously, this is simply an attempt by a "a conservative and a former speech writer for the Bush Administration" to give a boost to conservative blogs over non-partisan and progressive blogs, but under the false pretense of being "unbiased," using a "mathematical formula" (as if that's supposed to give it extra weight), etc.  The unsurprising result: a pathetic joke in which blogs with almost no traffic rank higher than popular and excellent blogs like Vivian Paige (#13) or Waldo Jaquith (#15) or Bearing Drift (#20).  Utterly absurd.  What's even worse, Ben and I have asked numerous times to be removed from this piece of trash, even though both of our blogs consistently rank at or near the top.  Ben has even gone to the effort of speaking to the Editor of the Editorial Page at the Virginian Pilot, but to no avail. 

In sum, this "ranking" system is flawed, biased and unethical, and I want no part of it.  That's why RK is currently looking into other options, such as specifically cutting off BNN's IP address, in order to block them from receiving our content.  I hope to hear more about this soon, and if it's possible, to take action as promptly as possible.


Comments



Another "popular and excellent blog" (elevandoski - 5/7/2007 12:21:03 PM)
didn't even make the list. Boo!


I think I'm going to take BNN down too (elevandoski - 5/7/2007 12:24:11 PM)
I need to stay focused on the prize.  Having that BNN feed on my blog is like rubber-necking on the highway.  Just keep driving, stop gawking at the wrecks, and mind your own business. 


Good move. (Lowell - 5/7/2007 12:34:08 PM)
n/t


awesome (TurnVirginiaBlue - 5/7/2007 3:05:46 PM)
Here comes technology to influence public opinion and try to repress public opinion...

While I'm sure we can create custom blocks on RSS feeds, this is also kind of interesting in that it shows how much blogs are now influencing public discourse...to the point it's basically a threat to MSM.



A great point at NLS (Lowell - 5/7/2007 3:30:37 PM)
By Jason:

I think the greater issue is that someone is making money off of other people's contents. BNN is ad driven and provides no real unique content other than some data on what the blogs it covers are talking about, and even then that's limited to some wordpress blogs and never counted RK and NLS's comment sections.

So he's taking other people's creations and profiting while doing everything possible within the site's design to limit actual traffic going to the sites that provide for his cat ontent and not allowing folks to opt out.

Personally, my issue is with someone profiting on the work of others without their consent.



And a follow-up I made at NLS: (JasonK - 5/7/2007 6:19:01 PM)
I didn't mean for my comment to come across so accusatory.  I know first hand that there are certain limitations that may come with the backend of a site like BNN that effect the design, content and redirection abilities of the site.  That BNN seems to keep folks at BNN as much as possible makes it more of a self serving tool than one for the blogs, but that may be a design flaw or one inherent in whatever Dave uses as the foundation of the site.  It's just a criticism I have of it and one I should take to him.  I don't believe he maliciously takes content from others or even tries to pretend it is his own.  Just on some level it's the nature of the beast of an aggregating site.


Don't shutdown your RSS feed or block it (humanfont - 5/7/2007 4:36:41 PM)
I believe you always lose when you stop sharing.  Maybe some of their conservative folks will come over here and learn something.


Yeah... (JasonK - 5/7/2007 6:20:50 PM)
While ranking is flawed, it's really not worth getting upset over.  To remove your voice from an aggregator that's attempting to be all things to all people is to not only do yourself a disservice but also potential readers.  If you allow BNN to become a tool only used by one side you limit your reach and your ability to spread your thoughts to others, whether or not they agree with them.  I know that and Waldo's aggregator are the main ways I find things from RK and any number of lefty sites.  Saves me from looking for you guys.


What's the point of BNN anyway? (Quizzical - 5/7/2007 6:50:54 PM)
I'm trying to figure out why anyone in Virginia would read BNN, as opposed to running an RSS aggregator on your computer. 

A lot of blog aggregator websites have failed.  Why should BNN be any different?

The ones that have staying power add some value.  Typically they have some sort of approach to headline or highlight "important" or "breaking news" entries.

I don't see how BNN can do that by rating stuff according to the traffic of its own readers.  For all but the busiest blogs (like this one) a large percentage of the traffic is probably from authors of the blogs on the BNN blogroll who are going there often to see how they are ranked.

I guess a good model for a Virginia political blog aggregator would be something like Memeorandum
  http://memeorandum.c...

Is there a Virginia equivalent of that?



What BNN Provides (JasonK - 5/7/2007 7:46:17 PM)
What BNN does is create a Technorati for VA political blogs.  It tells you what's being discussed, what posts and articles are generating conversations, what blogs are driving conversations and the like.  It's an interesting way to get a rough pulse of the VA blogosphere.  It's a little flawed (limited by the need for Blogger 'plug-ins' and other areas) but if Dave gets it just right it could be a VERY useful tool not just for VA bloggers but folks interested in finding out what is happening.

As the blogosphere becomes more and more relevant, having such information at your finger tips will be very useful if it's worked out correctly.  I get the feeling that the whole thing is still finding its place and certain bugs are being worked out, but it really does generate some interesting numbers (aside from the rankings).