The Truth About Dogs & Cats

By: Chris Guy
Published On: 4/3/2007 11:49:07 PM

Democrats won't admit it, but many secretly mourned when former Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) dropped out of the presidential race last year. Of all the Republicans who I'd want to run against in 2008, he was in a class all his own. In addition to the fact that his tenure as Majority Leader made Trent Lott look like Henry Cabot Lodge, his only real asset, the fact that he was an M.D., was also the source of his biggest blunders. So when Frist officially exited the world of politics last year, I thought the dream was over.

Enter Judith Giuliani.
As Senate Majority Leader, Dr. Frist embarrassed himself and his party by "diagnosing" Terry Schiavo's condition based on what he'd seen on videotaped footage. Prior to that, in a 2004 interview on ABC's This Week, Frist had a hard time answering the question of whether or not you could get AIDS from tears or sweat. Poor George Stephanopoulos had a hard time keeping himself from laughing at Frist's remarks.

But the cr+żme de la cr+żme was a revelation in his book, Transplant, that as a med student he would adopt cats from shelters, raise them as pets for a while...then kill them for his research experiments. The "Frist as Kitty-Killer" story has been discussed on the internet and in political circles for years, but it had yet to hit the general public.

The first amusing thing about Rudy's third wife is that she obviously wants to be a Hillary Clinton-type first lady. But trying to get her or her husband to admit it is like pulling teeth.

If you missed the Barbara Walters interview with Rudy and wife last week, let me give you a quick recap:

Barbara: Rudy, as President, would you let your wife sit in on cabinet or policy meetings?

Rudy: If she wants to.

Barbara: Judith, as First Lady, would you sit in on your husband's cabinet or policy meetings?

Judith: If he wants me to.

Sadly, in Republican circles, comparisons to Hillary Clinton is probably more damming than killing innocent, adorable animals. And the third Mrs. Giuliani might find out if that's true or not, thanks to her years spent at U.S. Surgical.

From the NY Post:

Judith Giuliani once demonstrated surgical products for a controversial medical-supply company that used dogs - which were later killed - in operations whose only purpose was to sell equipment to doctors, The Post has learned.

Now keep in mind, these were sales demonstrations, not potentially life-saving medical research. They already knew the product in question worked, but they needed sell it.

In Sunday's Post, Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign spokesman, Michael McKeon, said of Judi Giuliani's work with U.S. Surgical, "She was in the operating room hundreds of times, using her nursing skills and training doctors in the stapling technique."

Asked yesterday about the procedure being performed on dogs, McKeon said, "I've never heard any of this before."

Then McKeon said he would have to ask Judi.

Finally, he said only that Judi had not been involved in procuring dogs for sales demonstrations - but did not comment on whether she participated in demonstrations involving dogs.

The company, now part of Tyco Healthcare, has long acknowledged its salespeople routinely demonstrated staples on anesthetized dogs as part of sales pitches to doctors.

Then-CEO Leon Hirsch defended the practice in the 1980s, saying there was no other way to properly show how the staplers worked.

"A dead dog doesn't bleed," Hirsch said in a 1988 issue of Time magazine. "You need to have real blood-flow conditions, or you get a false sense of security."

There you have it. "A dead dog doesn't bleed." Can't argue with that logic. Unless of course you have a sense of decency. But then again what do I know, I'm just a Democrat.


Comments



Giuliani and the Cat Man of Cambridge (Bernie Quigley - 4/4/2007 5:59:58 AM)
As I vaguely recall from that Frist book, he actually roamed the streets of Cambridge at night as a Harvard medical students to get the cats and took them back to his apartment to dissect them  . . . . The Repubs are turning to Fred Thompson increasingly since the Barbara Walters interview with Giuliani - I happen to know that Giuliani's favorite TV show is The Sopranos (it is mine too) - but what is kind of spooky is that his answers to Walters with his Hillaryish wife was actually like a session with Dr. Melty (Tony's muse - comes from Beatrice in Dante's Divine Comedy, don't cha know) - Giulini says (holding hands with his current honey) he would like to have his wife in cabinet meetings - (we call this "anima poluted" but there is a much better street expression for it). And we thought he was a tough guy. I notice that he also drives the same kind of car Tony drives - Cadillac Excaliber. Very bad karma. Gives people the creeps. This gives "environmental exposition" to his aura. The Bernie Kerik episode could have possibly been gotten around - now it looks like business as usually. I think they'll turn to Thompson who is so, so good at tv: As Howard Baker's Watergate associate at Watergate he came up with those great phrases like "What did the President know and when did he know it?" - But he will fade too to Romney, who is at least an honest man and a good manager. (I wonder what my wife would say if I asked her if she would like it if I sat in on one of her departmental meetings at the university she works at - get a life?)


God help Rudy (Chris Guy - 4/4/2007 2:15:22 PM)
If GOP primary voters were watching that interview. In addition to everything you said, they just give me the creeps.


Chris: Great Diary Bernie: Great Comment!!!!! (Dianne - 4/4/2007 7:53:18 AM)


I worked in a lab once (Rebecca - 4/4/2007 8:17:17 AM)
Many years ago my first job was working for a doctor in Memphis who was doing research using animals. He was using rats (white ones raised in captivity). The rat room contained stacked cages of rats. The room must have contained hundreds of rats. When we would open the door to enter the room the rats would go wild screaming in fear. He would take a rat out of a cage and strike it on the back of the head with a metal bar to kill it for the experiment. This happened in the presense of all the other rats of course. Part of my job was to learn to do this but I never could so I eventually had to quit.

When I would walk down the halls of the building I would occasionally catch a glimpse of a medical student operating on a live dog. I'm not sure whether or not the dogs were sedated. but I certainly hoped so. The whole experience was gruesome. It was like working in a torture chamber for animals. It would have been much better to execute the experimental rat in another room, but all the rats saw this and knew any one of them could be next.

My father was a doctor and doctors have to learn to develop some insensitivity to these things. Once my Dad invited me to watch him remove a growth from a man's eyelid and it really bothered me. I guess he thought he could figure out some way to interest me in medicine, however this experience of seeing this operation had the opposite effect.

I know experimentation is necessary to advance medicine, but the unnecessary terrorization of animals is immoral in my opinion. I certainly think it is immoral for someone to go out and steal people's pets for experiments.

We also need to be aware that those in our society who have been vulnerable or unable to defend themselves have been the subjects of experiments. I am refering to human beings here. Blacks, Native Americans and orphans have been used for experiments without their knowledge or against their will. I think this should be a criminal offense.



Bill Frist and The Taliban (norman swingvoter - 4/4/2007 12:10:36 PM)
One of the most shocking revelations of last fall was by Bill Frist who said that the Taliban had gotten too strong to be defeated militarily and should be brought back into the Afghan government.  Frist got a free pass from the neocon nuts surrounding bush-cheney. I can barely imagine the uproar that would have happened if a Democrat had said this.

http://abcnews.go.co...