Steve Jarding to George Allen: "Just Shut Up"

By: Lowell
Published On: 10/27/2006 3:25:22 PM

Webb senior strategist Steve Jarding says, George Allen: You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Jim WebbGÇÖs Recollections of War GÇô So Just Shut Up.  Jarding adds, "And to Chris LaCivita, Who Did Serve, You Should Know Better GÇô Shame on You."

Check it out.

Lowell Feld is Netroots Coordinator for the Jim Webb for US Senate Campaign.  The ideas expressed here belong to Lowell Feld alone, and do not represent those of Jim Webb, his advisors, staff, or supporters.


Comments



Jarding Rocks. (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 3:51:39 PM)
That's right Allen. Shut the f#@# up.

So now we are banning books in America?

What an idiot.

This will backfire. They have the weakest campaign ever.

Can't they come up with something else?

Wow. I wonder if they are going to cry when they lose?

If Allen had been positive and talk about the issues, he'd might be far more ahead. Instead he let's his mouth run wild, and when the campaign tell's him to shut up they run it for him.

And it doesn't even make a difference.

Virginians are not stupid Mr. Allen, you are.

How dare you challege Jim Webb's experience in War.

I think it's about time we rev up some Generals for Webb. What will Allen do them? Keep attacking.

George Allen is a child.



Yes, he does. (phriendlyjaime - 10/27/2006 6:25:24 PM)
I want to give him a kiss.


kissing allen? (maryalice - 10/27/2006 6:39:37 PM)
ewww.. hey whatever floats your boat.

even if that boat happens to be the titanic.



Um....no. (phriendlyjaime - 10/27/2006 7:24:04 PM)
Jarding.

I don't kiss trash.



lol.. (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 9:03:49 PM)
I can't stop laughing jaime you crack me up!


This will backfire on Allen... (Loudoun County Dem - 10/27/2006 4:14:29 PM)
...since this focuses the final 10 days of the campaign on Webb's service during war (and Allen's lack thereof) and War in general (does Allen really want that?)


Turn on cable news.. (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 4:17:00 PM)
I was dead wrong, this race is going to be very nasty in the next 11 days courtesy of the Allen campaign.

Obviously they are so afraid they are going to use lies, soundbites, and assertions to try to win.

This is about winning to Allen, not about issues.

This is the straw that broke the camels back for me. These words in Webb's novels have been out there for YEARS. Even been praised by conservatives.

Even Ronald Reagan directly praised Webb's writing in his novels. Now these assholes in the GOP and in the Allen campaign are going to choose now to release this bullshit.

I think Jim Webb has tried to be nice and statesman like toward you Senator Allen and your campaign.

Your a fucking bully, liar, and by your own action and your campaigns actions fired up our base to get out there and kick your fucking ass out of the senate.

Jim Webb, and the entire campaign.

Kick some ass!! Hold nothing back now.

Fire at will.



George Allen Will Do Anything to be Re-Elected (oncerednowblue - 10/27/2006 4:17:54 PM)
Thanks, Steve Jarding!  Well said.

George Allen will do anything, say anything to be re-elected.  He is shameful!



Amazing comment on Daily Kos (Lowell - 10/27/2006 4:20:45 PM)
See here.

My Dad, the sailor, told me this stuff years ago (0 / 0)

In a rare bit of candor from this moral, sensitve, introspective man, he told me about his experiences in Vietnam.  He told us about the little girls in Saigon that would grab at the sailor's crotches while they were on leave.  He told us about how some jerks in uniform in the Phillipines heated coins on a bar with a lighter and the stripper picked them up with her vagina not knowing they were hot and was burned.  As if stripping and performing crude tricks weren't enough humiliation.  He came back from the war a changed man, even though he never saw combat like Jim Webb did.  War is a terrible thing.  Not just for the wanton destruction but for what it forces the soul to experience. 

Allen is the kind of jerk who would have heated those coins. 



REMEMBER GEORGE ALLEN IN ACTION (PM - 10/27/2006 4:22:58 PM)
http://www.dscc.org/...
14-0jostaff


Explaining why she is scared of heights, Ms. Allen writes that “Ever since my brother George held me over the railing at Niagara Falls, I’ve had a fear of heights.” [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 43]

Referring to George’s relationship with one of her boyfriends: “My brother George welcomed him by slamming a pool cue against his head.” [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 178]

Referring to George’s early leadership skills, Jennifer wrote: “We all obeyed George. If we didn't, we knew he would kill us. Once, when Bruce refused to go to bed, George hurled him through a sliding glass door. Another time, when Gregory refused to go to bed, George tackled him and broke his collarbone. Another time, when I refused to go to bed, George dragged me up the stairs by my hair.” [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 22]

Referring to George’s early career aspirations, Jennifer wrote “George hoped someday to become a dentist. George said he saw dentistry as a perfect profession - getting paid to make people suffer.” [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 22]

Referring to George’s habit of terrorizing a Green Bay Packer fan in their neighborhood, Jennifer wrote that the fan’s mailbox often “lay smashed in the street, a casualty of my brothers' drive-by to school in the morning. George would swerve his Mach II Mustang while Gregory held a baseball bat out the window to clear the mailbox off its post. . . . Lately, the Packers fan had resorted to stapling a Kleenex box to the mailbox post to receive his mail. George's red Mustang screeched up beside us, the Packers fan's Kleenex mailbox speared on the antenna.” [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 16]



also.. (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 4:26:56 PM)
someone said that he was "abusive" with his last wife. his marriage records are sealed?

I hope he paid his ex wife in california, if not..

Allen better hope she keeps quiet.



WOW MSNBC! (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 5:09:15 PM)
On hardball, David Schuster just talked about Allen being a hypocrite talking about Lynne Cheney and Scooter Libby and when Scooter was attacked about his racy novel GEORGE ALLEN DEFENDED HIM!

wow.

ANOTHER FLIP FLOP BY ALLEN!!!!

MSNBC also talked about Allen not REVEALING his first divorce records.

WEBB rebels. fire. fire. fire.



And Take No Prisoners (jackiehva - 10/27/2006 8:08:42 PM)


Veterans PISSED (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 9:10:40 PM)
I was talking to a few of my marines an hour ago. one of them is pissed on BEYOND belief.

WHY?????

All of Webb's books are treasured in the United States Marine Corps, especially Fields of fire.

Ask ANY marine, past, present, or future.

I had to tell the capitan to calm down.

I think Allen just barked up the wrong tree this time.

Hearing my military friends bring out the swords, keeps me fucking angry.

George Allen and his campaign in my opinion just disrespected every single person whos worn a uniform especially those who have seen the eye of combat.

Someone send George Allen a message.

You better start World War III because everyone who's wearing or worn a uniform just officially came over to the Webb camp.

Jarding was right, war is hell.

It's not some fucking dude ranch bitch.



Appropriate to Mr. Jarding Also -- LOL from Our Canadian Friends (PM - 10/27/2006 4:35:37 PM)
From the Toronto Star newspaper:

http://www.thestar.c...

Everyone knows Rush Limbaugh's just faking
Oct. 27, 2006. 01:00 AM
LINWOOD BARCLAY

Now, I know this may offend those who suffer from this particular condition, and these individuals might not like it much when I suggest that a certain person with this diagnosis is exaggerating his symptoms, but I have to say, I think Rush Limbaugh is just pretending to be a dick.

While the right-wing radio host does exhibit most, if not all, of the common characteristics of this behaviour, it's so rare for all of them to coalesce at a single moment that one can only conclude Limbaugh's most recent performances are nothing short of fraudulent.

I'm no expert diagnostician, but nobody could be this big a one. Limbaugh must be acting.***

***At this point, it's probably useful to review the most common symptoms exhibited by a person with EDS (extreme dick syndrome) for those not up to speed on them:

1. Exhibits a level of arrogance rooted in a feeling of superiority, without having any attributes to feel superior about.

2. Is capable of achieving levels of hypocrisy (railing against drug addicts when you are one, for example) previously thought unattainable.

3. Blow-hardedness.

4. Is indifferent to the woes and misfortunes of the disadvantaged.

5. Lies his ass off.

[etc.]
***
I know these statements of mine are going to enrage genuine sufferers of EDS everywhere. "How dare he say that!" they'll say. "We know we're rude and insensitive and total jerks 24/7, and he's got a lot of nerve suggesting otherwise."

I will say this, however. If it can be determined by an independent panel of experts that Rush Limbaugh is, in fact, a dick, I will apologize, unreservedly.



Yes please!! (doctormatt06 - 10/27/2006 4:39:32 PM)
Tell George Allen to take a big pill of STFU!!!


Wash Post Article on Webb's Writing!! (Tink - 10/27/2006 5:16:14 PM)
Here's the latest Washington Post article on the Drudge/Allen charges.  I think this article really helps Webb.  They talk about what is in George Allen's sisters book and other juicy stuff. 

http://www.washingto...



And Mr. Wadhams Too . . . (PM - 10/27/2006 5:16:31 PM)
Remember this great Howie Kurtz lead on Dick Wadham’s old employee, Jeff Gannon?  Jeff Gannon -- the guy who worked with Wadhams’ bloggers in the Thune-Daschle race a few years ago?

Online Nude Photos Are Latest Chapter In Jeff Gannon Saga

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 16, 2005; Page C01

The Jeff Gannon story is still bouncing around the Internet, and now there are pictures.

The kind you shouldn't open up in the office.

Here’s a tame picture.  You can find some graphic ones on Google images.

jeff-gannon

A little history for those who don’t know the story:  http://en.wikipedia....

James Dale Guckert worked under the pseudonym Jeff Gannon as a White House reporter between 2003 and 2005, representing Talon News. After Guckert came under public scrutiny, in particular for his lack of a significant journalistic background and involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name Bulldog, he resigned from Talon News on February 8, 2005. ***Guckert routinely obtained daily passes to White House briefings. He attended four Bush press conferences and appeared regularly at White House press briefings. Although he did not qualify for a Congressional press pass, Guckert was given daily passes to White House press briefings "after supplying his real name, date of birth and Social Security number".

Guckert first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, in which he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered "so friendly it might have been planted".

In the Post story, John Aravosis asked the critical question:  "If you were just looking at this as a matter of his hypocrisy, the story's over now that he's gone. The larger issue is how did someone like this get access to the White House."  The Post story ended with a great play on words (note the picture above):  “[Scott McClellan said he has discussed the Gannon matter only "briefly" with the president.”  [The Post had the “briefly” in quotation marks]

Here’s the Gannon-Wadhams link, as explained by CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.c...

One of Gannon's first projects was an attempt to discredit the South Dakota Argus Leader, South Dakota's major paper, and its longtime political writer, David Kranz. According to the National Journal, which reported on this last November, Gannon wrote a series of articles in the summer of 2003 alleging that Kranz, who went to college with Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle, was not only sympathetic to him but was an actual part of the Daschle campaign. These articles then got a huge amount of play on the blogs of John Lauck and Jason Van Beek, and were picked up by other conservative sites and talk radio. The paper was bombarded with messages about its bias and acknowledges that these had an impact on its coverage.

Daschle opponent John Thune's campaign manager was Dick Wadham, an old political crony of Karl Rove's; the kind of pal Rove could ask to hire his first cousin, John Wood, a few years back. Wadham put the bloggers on the campaign payroll and the symbiotic relationship between the campaign, the bloggers and "reporter" Gannon continued.

*** Daschle aides told Roll Call, "This guy (Gannon) became the dumping ground for opposition research." ***

Gannon also had Thune on his radio show "Jeff Gannon's Washington," and the White House correspondent for Talon became touted as the "resident D.C. expert on South Dakota politics" by the bloggers. Thune and Wadham (who has been hired by aspiring White House Republican Sen. George Allen) have become go-to guys on the use of blogs in campaigns.

Will we ever find out how a gay male prostitute walked freely in the White House and was seen with Republican heavies?

jdgnorquist

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310805jeff_gannon_cspan

Maybe Dick Wadhams has the answer.



Political Wire Story (PM - 10/27/2006 5:20:59 PM)
http://politicalwire...

Buzz in Virginia
Emails began pouring in earlier today about a rumor on Capitol Hill about some trouble in Sen. George Allen's (R-VA) divorce file. Josh Marshall and others cannot get a response from the Allen campaign.

It seems everyone is emptying their opposition research files today.

Update: A very reputable political reporter tells me this isn't from Democratic opposition research and that it's probably coming out because many feel Allen "crossed the line" when he started talking about Jim Webb's novels.

I'm told divorce records are usually sealed for two reasons: (a) to protect kids, and (b) to protect large financial fortunes. Neither situation applies in Allen's case, so the suspicion is that it's something not very nice.

Update II: A clue might be in this Ryan Lizza piece on Mark Warner about a story that had been "making the rounds" about a 2008 presidential contender who "once spit on his wife." That rumor was also about Allen.



Allen beat his wife (maryalice - 10/27/2006 5:37:32 PM)
That's what he's hiding.

She lives in La Jolla, California.

Not too far from where Allen grew up in Whitter about an hour south. La Jolla is a suburb of San Diego.

Senator Allen should be ashamed of himself, how can women in Virginia support him?



Truth? (jackiehva - 10/27/2006 8:14:12 PM)
Is there hard evidence to support this accusation?  If there is not, don't go there!!  This won't help Jim Webb.  I still want to hear about the issues, not slime from decades ago, and that applies to both candidates. 


More on the issues (Lowell - 10/27/2006 8:27:31 PM)
Iraq War: Webb was against it from 2002, Allen was blindly for it and now has no idea where he stands (just in the past few days, he's "cut and run" on "stay the course").
Stem Cell Research:  Webb is strongly for it (along with Michael J. Fox and Nancy Reagan), Allen's strongly against it (along with Rush Limbaugh)
Tax Loopholes to Companies that Outsource American Jobs Overseas:  Webb is for closing them, Allen's for leaving them wide open.
Congress as a Co-Equal Branch of Government: Webb is strongly for it, Allen apparently doesn't care.
Drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Webb's against it, Allen's for it.
George W. Bush:  Webb will stand up to him, Allen won't.
Transportation;  Webb is for Tim Kaine's approach, Allen's apparently sides with recalcitrant, screw-NOVA-and-Hampton-Roads, House of Delegates Republicans.
GI Bill: Webb is strongly for it, Allen doesn't seem to care.
Minimum Wage: Webb is for raising it, Allen isn't.
Modern Day Truman Commission to Investigate Waste, Fraud and Abuse in Iraq Contracting: Webb is strongly for it, Allen doesn't seem to care.
Taxes:  Webb's for making rich corporations pay their fair share so that the middle and working classes don't get ripped off; Allen is for taking money from 99% of us and giving it to the richest 1% of individuals and corporations.
Women's Reproductive Choice:  Webb's for it, Allen's against it.

Anything else you'd like to know?



Grisham Unloads On Allen! (drmontoya - 10/27/2006 5:27:10 PM)
I Love John Grisham.


Grisham said Friday in an interview, "I am just shocked at the idea the Allen campaign would be this desperate. This is a clear sign of a desperate campaign if they plow through novels trying to find evidence of character. The old saying is 'everything is grist for the writer's mill.' Every person you see, every country you visit, every bizarre, vile, repulsive act could one day be in a novel. That is not reflective of your character as an author; it is reflective of what you witnessed as someone looking for material."

Grisham then unloaded on Allen, saying, "It seems like voters should be more concerned with George Allen's fiction. I seriously doubt George Allen is much of a reader, but if he would read more, maybe he would understand the difference fiction and non-fiction."

At the Charlottesville fundraiser last month, King said, "They keep talking about Webb, the fiction writer candidate. This is supposed to be a bad thing, and this drives me crazy. It makes me insane to hear this, partially because I am a fiction writer, and for years, I have been saying [that] fiction is the truth inside the lie. And what I have seen the last six years in Washington is the lie inside the truth. . . . If you think George Allen is the best qualified to represent the people in Washington, I think that might be fiction."




Now Letterman's Kicking O'Reilly's Ass (Catzmaw - 10/28/2006 12:10:01 AM)
This is a terrific night.  First I see the Politics Hour with Webb.  Now I'm seeing David Letterman calling out Bill O'Reilly: "I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I don't think you do, either."  Audience clapping a lot at every wisecrack over Iraq.