Yawn. Lie. Yawn. Lie.

By: Lowell
Published On: 10/16/2006 8:20:55 PM

My reaction to the just-concluded John Warner-George Allen faux-lovefest is this: it was a bizarre combination of extreme boredom (the "yawn" part of the title) and false statements (the "lie" part).  The "yawn" was that there was absolutely nothing newsworthy or interesting in any way about this 2 minute...uh, thing.  The "lie" part is that the two newly minted "good friends" (ain't that precious?) spouted crazy Republican talking points that are utterly untrue, like "Iraq is a sovereign nation."  Hey, that's a good one; which Iraqi sovereign nation are they talking about, Kurdistan, Shiite-ville, or Sunni-land? 

And I LOVE the part about not giving terrorists a safe haven abroad.  Uh, guys?  You mean you missed the news about how "al-Qaeda in Iraq and other Sunni Arab insurgent groups declared a new Islamic republic in the western and central parts of the country?"  Hmmmm.

Or, how about how these guys claim to have CUT wasteful government spending.  Uh, guys?  You haven't noticed that we're running huge budget deficits and that porkbarrel spending - highways to nowhere, favors to lobbyists, etc. - and that Federal spending is out of control?  Duhhh....

Oh, and former Reagan Navy Secretary Jim Webb is now some sort of ultra-liberal, soft-on-terrorism, tax-raising commie/pinko? 

As I was saying; zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....  But hey, it's their money to waste!

Lowell Feld is Netroots Coordinator for the Jim Webb for US Senate Campaign.  The ideas expressed here belong to Lowell Feld alone, and do not represent those of Jim Webb, his advisors, staff, or supporters.


Comments



Did anyone notice that... (Lowell - 10/16/2006 8:38:25 PM)
John Warner never said that he and George Allen agree on Iraq?  Gee, I wonder why not.


His best friend (Arturo - 10/16/2006 8:41:24 PM)
I missed the entire episode.  Is there a video somewhere, so I can watch Sen. Allen with his new best friend?  And, whatever happened to his previous best friend? 


Other areas where the "great team" disagree (Lowell - 10/16/2006 8:47:18 PM)
Allen: Opposes stem cell research
J. Warner: Supports stem cell research

Allen: Supports spending $1.8 billion for a border fence on the US/Mexican border.
J. Warner: Does NOT support this.

Allen: Opposes increasing the minimum wage.
J. Warner:  Supports increasing the minimum wage.

Allen: Supported the Administration's use of military tribunals.
J. Warner:  Challenged the Administration's use of military tribunals.

Allen: Voted to reduce states’ access to funding for child support programs.
J. Warner:  Voted against reducing this funding.

And on and on we go.  The bottom line is that the differences between John Warner and George Allen are stark and numerous.  They can pretend to be a "great team" all they want, and new faux friends, but the facts speak for themselves.  They're not.



John Warner wanted to raise taxes (Lowell - 10/16/2006 8:58:55 PM)
From the Richmond Times-Dispatch:

Allen's aligning himself with Warner on tax relief did not tell the whole story.

In February 2004 in Richmond, exclaiming "Politics be damned," Warner called for improving Virginia's schools, health care and transportation through budget cuts and increases in fees and state taxes.

Allen, on the other hand, told state Republicans to fight the tax increases proposed by then-Gov. Mark R. Warner and the GOP chairman of the state Senate's budget-writing committee.

In 2002, Sen. Warner joined Democratic Gov. Warner (who is no relation) in pushing for advisory referendums on sales-tax increases in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads>. The idea was to finance transportation improvements.

Allen opposed the sales-tax increases, saying proponents had not made a case for higher taxes.

What a liberal tax-and-spender that John Warner is.  Ha. :)



John Warner Gets a "D" from Anti-Immigration Group (Lowell - 10/16/2006 9:04:39 PM)
See here

George Allen gets a "B."  See here

Seems like Warner and Allen differ greatly on illegal immigration as well as Iraq, taxes, stem cell research, etc., etc.



Phone banking responses (Teddy - 10/16/2006 9:26:17 PM)
when I call turn up odd ideas about Webb and Iraq: sometimes during the phone calls I get a grumpy old man who is sure that if we leave Iraq the terrorists will have a haven there and then take over, and then won't give us any of the Iraqi oil; they think Webb hasn't thought through his opposition to staying the course as-is--- yet they don't like the situation we have got ourselves into, either. These old coots will probably eat up the photo of Allen and Warner together as being tough, completely ignoring Warner's 90 days and out report. So having Warner pimp for Allen may speak to this segment... just how big a segment it is, I dunno.


Hey now, they want to be partners (Doug Garnett-Deakin - 10/16/2006 9:47:48 PM)
be sure to vote no, so the blue tie boys can be "partners" after nov 8.

Oh, wait, our law already precludes that. Maybe someone should mention all their dreams are not possible already.



Did Allen just come out of the closet??? (drmontoya - 10/16/2006 10:33:38 PM)
Because I swear they both said partner's like a dozen times?

I thought Allen was against same sex parterships?

Um?

Lol..

Something to think about!



Cute couples ... (loboforestal - 10/16/2006 10:55:53 PM)

One thing about George, he's got range.



RE: Wasting away in Margaritaville (JPTERP - 10/17/2006 1:25:07 AM)
Is it just my lying eyes or is that the infamous George Allen family portrait looming over Allen's left shoulder?


LOL I think so (PM - 10/17/2006 6:11:46 AM)
I think I read in Wonkette that it was on his mantelpiece.


RE: Finger to the wind (JPTERP - 10/17/2006 1:18:53 AM)
So George Allen has put his finger to the political wind and decided it's time to cut and run from "stay the course"? 

I guess I applaud the decision; although there is a difference between arriving at a position through careful reasoning and simply jumping on the bandwagon when it's politically expedient.  Then again, this is the George Allen that we've come to know (if not love).



Mike Shear Says John Warner Tried to Recruit Webb (PM - 10/17/2006 6:16:11 AM)
John Warner and Webb were former secretaries of the Navy; Webb served on Warner's staff when Warner was at the Pentagon. Warner has never publicly criticized Webb, having once tried to recruit the former Republican to run for the Senate seat that Allen now holds.

http://www.washingto...

Well, that's odd.  I guess John Warner really wants to hang onto his chairmanship.idiot1



RE: John Warner's recruitment efforts (JPTERP - 10/17/2006 7:11:23 AM)
Were in the '92 Senate race between Robb, Oliver North, Marshall Coleman, and Doug Wilder. 

Webb and Senator Bob Kerrey ended up backing Robb.  Coleman became Warner's fill-in candidate and Wilder ultimately bowed out of the race.



RE: Correction (JPTERP - 10/17/2006 7:19:13 AM)
It was the 1994 Senate race. 

Btw, two good documentaries came out of the race ("The Perfect Candidate" the better of the two, and a decent one hour MTV production "Ollie's Army," which offers an at times hilarious view of James Madison U. college Republicans in their effort to elect Ollie).



I need to see that movie (PM - 10/17/2006 8:22:44 AM)
I have a book with a quote from Chuck Grassley to the effect that, yes the GOP would support North; "we've backed nuts before."


I finally watched it (Arturo - 10/17/2006 8:20:04 AM)
It looked like John Warner was the candidate; he spoke much longer than Allen.  Lame commerical.