Dave Marsden: GOP "inflexible, ideological and unable to alter policy mistakes"

By: Lowell
Published On: 8/9/2006 3:11:55 PM

Tomorrow (Thursday) at 2 PM, Del. Dave Marsden will be liveblogging here at Raising Kaine.  Below is his writeup.  Please feel free to leave your questions for Del. Marsden.  Thanks.

This year, the Democrats must take back one, if not both, houses of the Congress. Almost six years of single party rule in Washington has left us with a mess.  There+óGé¼Gäós an old question that Ronald Reagan famously asked in 1980 "are you better off today than you were six years ago?"  For a sizeable majority of Virginians, the answer is "No."  Whether it+óGé¼Gäós soaring deficits, static real wages, our health care crisis, or the ever growing number of international hotspots, the United States is much worse off after George Allen+óGé¼Gäós six years on Capitol Hill.  For us to regain control of our country, we need Jim Webb in the United States Senate.  Jim Webb is man who asks the tough questions, always has.  He is an advocate for what is right, not what+óGé¼Gäós politically expedient. 

The lock-step, never look back, never change your mind policies of Republican politicians like George Allen may have served us adequately when our only concern was the Soviet Union.  But in a world where there are multiple foreign policy dilemmas and the usual array of domestic needs the job of Senator requires greater thoughtfulness and flexibility than I+óGé¼Gäóve ever observed from the current junior Senator from Virginia.


I become concerned when Republican politicians win elective office based on dramatic policy changes that while having their benefits, fail to account for their long-term costs. In my experience, these same Republicans aren+óGé¼Gäót too concerned about who will eventually have to cope with those costs and what their impact may be on future generations.  The costs are just vastly underestimated, or not identified at all.  One prime example of this is the Bush tax cuts, the effects of which balloon out of control in the year 2011 if made permanent. Part of this mentality is that we celebrate when our federal deficit is only $296 billion!  Where was George Allen when someone needed to stand up and question what the long-term impact of this policy would be?  He was busy supporting the President, as he has done an astounding 97% of the time. 

As Governor, George Allen created policies for political expediency, but failed to provide a solution as to how they would be funded. Take his +ï+ôno parole+óGé¼Gäó program as an example.  Look, crime is down in every state in this country over the past 10 years and everyone+óGé¼Gäós claiming different reasons.  In Virginia it+óGé¼Gäós +ï+ôno parole," in other states it+óGé¼Gäós drug treatment and rehabilitation programs, but the point is his administration didn+óGé¼Gäót think through the costs of its response to crime.  After a decade of declining crime, we+óGé¼Gäóre building two new prisons in Virginia, expanding two others and costing ourselves at least $75 million a year, every year into the foreseeable future, and we+óGé¼Gäóre planning for a third new prison. 

Meanwhile, Virginia has acute transportation needs, water treatment facilities around the state are out of date and spewing sewage into our waterways and we just kicked 1,900 poor children out of the child care their parents need to lift themselves up from poverty.  Within reason, no parole was a sound policy that I support, but fiscal responsibility means planning for costs, not passing them on for future governors to deal with.

Jim Webb will not be that kind of Senator.  He had the courage to change party affiliation when it became clear to him that Republicans had become inflexible, ideological and unable to alter policy mistakes.  Jim Webb is not a sound-bite politician; he speaks about what he knows and doesn+óGé¼Gäót try to say what+óGé¼Gäós politically convenient.  When Jim Webb puts on his boots, it+óGé¼Gäós not because he wants to convince people he+óGé¼Gäós really a fighter - his record more than proves that.  Jim Webb is a man of principle and his principles aren+óGé¼Gäót determined by the shifting political winds. 

Trust me, both sides make mistakes.  The question in these increasingly complicated times is who you want shaping the future of the country: people willing to question and reconsider policy or people who push blindly ahead with insufficient regard to the consequences of their actions.  That+óGé¼Gäós why I support Jim Webb. We need thinkers and leaders in the US Senate, not individuals who blindly follow party or ideology.


Comments



I agree (Ben - 8/9/2006 4:20:25 PM)
I agree with everything Delegate Marsden says above.

My question:  If you feel that strongly about the Bush agenda why were you not one of the 400,000+ Virginians who voted in our 2004 Presidential Primary to select Bush's potential replacement?



Like many Virginians in February of 2004... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 1:54:19 PM)
I was in the process of coming to some of these conclusions about the Bush Administration.  As well, the actions of Republicans in the General Assembly here in Virginia that year, along with the way the Bush administration seemed to be making mistake after mistake, led me to the Democratic Party. These mistakes similarly led Jim Webb to the Democratic Party and will lead thousands of others in Virginia to us as well. 


Why do you think Republicans (Lowell - 8/9/2006 4:29:05 PM)
have become "inflexible, ideological and unable to alter policy mistakes?"  What happened to the old Republican Party which stood for balanced budgets, a realistic internationalism, and keeping the government out of our bedrooms AND our wallets?  Also, do you believe the GOP is in danger of splitting apart along social conservative/fiscal conservative (or other) lines?  Thanks.


In retrospect,.. (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:00:42 PM)
it seems to me that throughout the 80’s and 90’s Republicans were finding ever greater success in defining themselves as what they were against.  However, when it came time to be for something, it was a different story. 

The Republicans seem to have found an ideology that appeals to their base more effectively than fiscal responsibility, international restraint and disinterest in people’s private lives.  As a result, their base has changed some as well. 

Yes, I do think they're at risk of splintering their party and I think we’ve seen evidence of that in the last two election cycles in Virginia.  I think that independent and moderate voters in Virginia are drawn to a party that will responsibly invest in our future needs, ensure our future economic well-being and stay out of their private lives.  I believe that because this is what the Democratic Party of Virginia stands for, we are poised to experience gains.



I agrree. As a former Republican myself... (Lowell - 8/10/2006 2:05:10 PM)
this party has gone completely off the right-wing deep end on issues like stem cell research, scientific knowledge in general, foreign policy, personal liberties, etc.


You crushed in 2005, will we see that again next year (pitin - 8/9/2006 5:37:14 PM)
Dave, you absolutly crushed your opponent Michael Golden in 2005 by running a common sense campaign against an ideological extremists.  Based on that, I have two questions.

Do you have any idea who the Republicans are going to run in your district in 2007? and how confidant are you of a re-election.

What are you doing to help out Andy Hurst in the 11th, (of which the 41st HoD district is in), seeing as how you won by so much, the voters obviously respect your opinion, hopefully you can help out Andy.



We did very well in 2005 (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:07:01 PM)
because we had a common-sense message that we worked very, very hard to get out.  We raised $393,000 for a campaign in a district that had narrowly supported President Bush in 2004.  We engaged over 400 volunteers, received over 1200 donations and I personally knocked on over 12,000 doors.  Our team took that number to over 50,000.  We had over 200 involved in get-out-the-vote efforts on Election Day.  I have not heard of anyone stepping forward as a challenger, but I do anticipate opposition in 2007.  However, if we run the kind of grassroots, shoe leather campaign we ran in 2005 (and we will!) then I feel pretty good about next year. 

I have contributed to Andy Hurst’s (and Jim Webb’s – have all of you? Do so here: https://secure.webbf...) campaign and have knocked on doors with Andy in my district (and will do so again).  I have been knocking on doors myself to contact citizens and gain insight into the issues they find most important for Virginia and am talking up Andy (and Jim Webb for that matter) in that process as well.



You knocked on my door (Alicia - 8/10/2006 2:09:10 PM)
here in the 11th - and I have been a supporter ever since.

Thanks for speaking out and supporting Jim Webb.  We need a smart, deep-thinking straight-shooter like him in the Senate.



Lamont in Connecticut (Teddy - 8/9/2006 5:41:37 PM)
What is your take on the Lamont primary victory in Connecticut, and Senator Liberman's choice to run as an independent? What, if any, effect will this have on Webb's campaign in Virginia? On the funding by the DSCC of various senate campaigns aroun the country (including Webb)


I don’t think (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:12:09 PM)
that Lieberman’s defeat is likely to just be a result of his support for the Iraq war.  Not being from Connecticut, I can’t speak to what he has or hasn’t done for those folks.  I don’t think his running as an independent will have any negative impact on Jim’s race here in Virginia or in the DSCC’s supporting Democrats who are challenging Republicans around the country, including their support for Jim.  However, we need to show the DSCC that we Virginians are also behind Jim; please give here: https://secure.webbf....


Do you believe that Virginia... (Lowell - 8/10/2006 7:25:02 AM)
is now a "red state," a "purple state," or a state in transition and moving "blue?"  How do you read Tim Kaine's twin victories in Loudoun and Prince William Counties last year?  Overall, with the continued growth of Northern Virginia relative to the rest of the state, how do you see Virginia politics evolving over the next few years?  Specifically, what are the chances that Democrats will take back the State House or Senate in 2007?


I believe the demographics... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:14:23 PM)
tell us that Virginia is a state in transition towards being a blue state, as our suburbs grow and become more urbanized. 

Governor Kaine’s positive, effective message for those areas and his recognition of their importance explain his success there.  I think taking back the House will require two House election cycles, while we have a good chance of taking back the Senate in the next election.  I think we are poised to make significant inroads in Prince William and Virginia Beach based on the voting records of incumbents in those areas. 



Raising money (Dude - 8/10/2006 9:58:25 AM)
I took a look at the first financial report for Democratic HoD incumbents, and it doesn't look very good...

Safe incumbents need to raise at least a half million for us to have a chance at picking up seats in 2007. Can we do that? How is it looking?



Well... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:21:08 PM)
I’ve raised over $12,000 since the last filing deadline with at least three more fundraisers set for the fall.  You’re probably being a little unrealistic when you suggest safe House incumbents raising $500,000 each; only in the most highly contested races did either side approach those levels.  I think we'll raise significant amounts, but $500,000 is probably not likely. 

I’ve given generously to the Caucus already and I know that the money will be there for good challengers who do their part in fundraising and grassroots efforts. 



No (Dude - 8/10/2006 2:48:38 PM)
You misunderstood - I meant $500k total for the caucus. That's probably a bit low.


One other question (Dude - 8/10/2006 10:06:26 AM)
Where do you stand on regional transportation authorities?


I prefer... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:25:21 PM)
a statewide transportation solution, but I’m willing to consider regional solutions as well.  We have to find sustainable funding for transportation.


Back to the house of delegates (novamiddleman - 8/10/2006 11:51:41 AM)
Sort of having trouble phrasing this question

As specifically as you can, please comment on the degree of partianship and your experiences with working across the aisle.  For example are you/have you been working with some local area republican delegates on alternate plans dealing with transportation.  Also, what are your feelings about the tone and opinions expressed by democratic leaders of the house and senate.  Thanks in Advance



It has been worse in the past... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:34:11 PM)
but partisanship is a sizable problem in some policy areas.  It is extreme in areas like transportation, or the votes on LeBlanc and Dillard.  Fortunately, most legislation is handled in very bipartisan ways that are largely unseen by the public. 

I’ve been studying the plan put forth by Albo/Rust/Callahan/McQuigg/Lingamfelter/May.  I appreciate their efforts and there has been some dialogue.  I expect and hope there’ll be more the closer we get to a special session.



The Hate Amendment (Eric - 8/10/2006 12:51:13 PM)
Hi Dave, thanks for live blogging with us today.

My question is about the Hate, er Marshall/Newman, Amendment. 

Do you think it will have the desired effect that the Republicans are shooting for?  Namely that it will serve as a GOTV for conservatives much the way the same issue was used nationally in 2004.

Is there any chance it could backfire if Virginians really get to know the full text (and intent) of the amendment?



While it is hard to predict... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:42:37 PM)
I am of the backfire school of thought.  This change in the state’s constitution is disturbing on many levels.


COMMENT HIDDEN (djjworker - 8/10/2006 12:58:13 PM)


Actually, I was notified by Bill Leighty (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:44:58 PM)
who was and continues to be a great friend and supporter.  Gov. Warner and I had a great laugh about it because we both knew how much he respected my work on juvenile justice and how qualified Jerauld Jones was to be the Director.  There was never anything personal about Governor Warner’s decision to appoint his own director.  I was Acting Director and that always meant that it wasn’t my job.  Governor Warner actually sent me a very gracious letter asking me to stay on at DJJ until he appointed Jerauld, which I did.  I had the pleasure to serve Governor Warner for the first 6 months of his administration and then returned home to my wife and family in Northern Virginia. 


Thanks for having me Lowell (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 1:48:03 PM)
I'm glad to be here today to talk about Jim Webb and why he'll make a great Senator....and a few other things it seems from the questions thus far. 


Thank you for coming! (Lowell - 8/10/2006 2:00:27 PM)


COMMENT HIDDEN (djjworker - 8/10/2006 1:55:22 PM)


You're kidding, right? (Lowell - 8/10/2006 2:01:35 PM)


Clearly, (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:46:46 PM)
my efforts on behalf of Jim Webb come at no expense to his campaign.  The idea is for people to give Jim money, not the other way around.


I think we've discovered a new troll on RK (Lowell - 8/10/2006 2:49:48 PM)
They pop up now and again, unfortunately...


Thank you and... (djjworker - 8/10/2006 3:32:57 PM)
...I wish everyone could be as magnanimous as you are. It is my understanding that the campaign has made the unfortunate decision to pay bloggers. If Rasing Kaine gets 8k a month then those providing content, I would think, should get a cut of that.

But I believe in capitalism and thats just my opinion.



You are welcome (Eric - 8/10/2006 3:37:33 PM)
to have a share.  Feel free to take mine as well.  Hell, take it all.  Where should we send the check for $0.00?

Your "understanding" is dead wrong - RK is not being paid to blog for anyone.  Never has, Never will.



I apologize... (djjworker - 8/10/2006 3:42:42 PM)
I understood from my coworker that Lowell Feld and Josh Chernilla were both on the Webb payroll.

Nice work if you can get it...

If I am wrong, I apologize. I suppose Lowell could clear that up or Josh either one.

I think, by the tone of yor reply, that you would find it distatsteful if they were indeed being paid to blog.



COMMENT HIDDEN (I.Publius - 8/10/2006 3:50:59 PM)


Seems to me (Alicia - 8/10/2006 9:39:01 PM)
that the content of this blog from its inception (years ago?) has remained unchanged.

If Lowell and Josh work for the Webb campaign In Addition to keeping this thing going - good for them!  It's not like Lowell has hidden his great news. 

You're just sucking on sour grapes b/c you heart Allen.



Earth to I. Publius (Lowell - 8/11/2006 7:25:22 AM)
Let's get a few facts straight here, since your specialty is spewing misinformation and hoping some of the shit will stick to the fan:

1) I started Raising Kaine back in early January 2005, well before I had ever heard of Jim Webb.  The goal was to help push Virginia "blue" and to help "blog Tim Kaine into the Governor's mansion."

2) I never received a penny from the Kaine for Governor campaign, or anyone else for that matter, for my efforts.  Eventually, we set up a state PAC (run by Brian Patton) and received a few contributions (many of which came from RK contributors).  We used that money to buy ads promoting Democratic candidates, particularly Tim Kaine, in last year's gubernatorial election.

3) Starting in November 2005, I becamse interested in a possible Jim Webb candidacy.  In late December 2005, several of us - NONE paid a penny to do so, by the way - started a grassroots "Draft" effort for Webb.  In the end, after hundreds of hours of work, plus 1,000 signatures and $40,000 in pledges from ordinary citizens, we helped convince Jim Webb that he would be welcome as a Democrat running for US Senate from Virginia.

4) From February 2006 through June 2006, neither Josh nor I received ONE PENNY from the Webb campaign, just as we received not ONE PENNY from the Kaine campaign last year.  I know this is hard for uber-capitalists like yourself to believe, by the way, but we did this because - gasp - we BELIEVED in Jim Webb, NOT for money.

5) In March 2006, I quit my GS-15 ($110,000-per-year plus) government job to work full-time on the Webb effort, while STILL not making a penny to do so.  Thanks to my wife for supporting me during that period.

6) Starting in July, Josh and I began working formally for the Webb for Senate campaign, me as "Netroots Coordinator."  As such, I work about 70-80 hours per week (at least), while making...well, let's just say I took a rather large (75%-80% or so) pay cut compared to my GS-15 government job.  Frankly, I would do this for no money, because I believe so strongly in Jim Webb, but I DO have to pull my weight with the "Mrs." and help pay the mortgage, ya know?

7) Josh and I are totally NOT trying to hide anything here.  We have supported Jim Webb since December 2005, and continue to strongly do so.  We are proud to work for Jim "American Hero" Webb, whether paid or unpaid.  We have disliked George "American Zero" Allen and his policies for many years, well before Raising Kaine or Jim Webb came into our lives...

8) For those who don't know our political history, we fully disclose the fact that we are now working for the Webb campaign.  No secrets at all. Why would we keep secrets; we've got nothing to hide.

9) We reveal all this DESPITE the fact that we are under NO OBLIGATION to do so.  There are no laws about this, and there's no "blogger code of ethics" (that idea was shot down at the blogger's summit in C-ville last year; I supported it, by the way).  We do this simply because we want there to be NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER in the minds of our readers.  Unfortunately, there will always be a few people like you who simply cannot believe our motives are honest ones.  Can we say "projection?"  Paging Dr. Freud, paging Dr. Freud.

10) Honestly, I don't care one bit about what you say, because frankly you HAVE nothing to say that's of any interest.  You can't even make a coherent conservative argument, which simply boggles my mind.  My God, man, at least make your conservative case, if there IS one!  The only reason I'm responding to your latest inanity is to clarify for other readers who might be interested.



Primary (Ben - 8/10/2006 2:18:17 PM)
As a former Republican yourself, what kept you from endorsing Jim Webb in the recent primary?


I didn’t... (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:49:56 PM)
endorse either candidate.  I welcomed Jim Webb to the Democratic Party when I first met him at Gerry Connelly’s St. Patrick’s Day fundraiser. He and I had a long conversation, which I enjoyed.  I also had the opportunity to meet Harris Miller.  As a freshman, I did not feel that my endorsement of either candidate would have a large impact and I was satisfied that either individual would represent Virginia better than George Allen.


Well, we certainly appreciate your strong support (Lowell - 8/10/2006 2:50:47 PM)
for Jim Webb now!  Thanks very much.


Are there any right-wing Delegates you simply (Lowell - 8/10/2006 2:52:27 PM)
can not work with because they are so extreme?  I'm thinking, for instance, of "Sideshow" Bob Marshall, who Bruce Roemmelt's hopefully going to defeat next year.


Thanks everyone for your questions. (DelegateDaveMarsden - 8/10/2006 2:53:55 PM)
I enjoyed my first Raising Kaine live blog.  The important thing here is taking back the US Senate and we need Jim Webb to do that.

-Dave



Thanks very much. (Lowell - 8/10/2006 3:26:57 PM)
This was very helpful.  - Lowell