In Defense of Mudcat Saunders

By: Lowell
Published On: 6/23/2006 11:23:13 AM

This week's online edition of the American Prospect magazine has an article by Thomas F. Schaller entitled, "Cat Scratch Fever: My run-in with Dave 'Mudcat' Saunders, the Democrats' Dixie huckster."  According to Schaller, referring to both "Mudcat" and to his co-author on "Foxes in the Henhouse," Steve Jarding:

Though they write powerfully about southern Republicans+óGé¼Gäó political exploitation of race and the appalling inequities rural Americans face, Jarding and Saunders provide few solutions beyond semiotic gimmicks like putting candidates in flannel shirts, or symbolic gestures like Bob Graham+óGé¼Gäós sponsorship of a NASCAR driver.

If these self-styled southern political experts can+óGé¼Gäót solve the problem of building a sustainable cross-racial Democratic coalition in the South, there are only two conclusions to draw: The consultants are not worth the price of their contracts, or the Democrats+óGé¼Gäó problems in the region are so intractable they simply cannot be solved. Either admission would put guys like Saunders out of business.

Ouch! Those cat scratches really hurt. Reeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrr!!!!

Schaller adds, for good measure:

Indeed, Saunders+óGé¼Gäó very livelihood requires him to peddle fictions like the notion that rural, white, Christian, noncollege-educated, married male voters are the key to Democratic resurgence in a country where women, suburban-exurbanites, seculars, college graduates, the unmarried, and minorities become a larger share of the electorate with each passing cycle.

Well, there you have it.  According to Schaller, the Democratic Party should simply abandon rural, religious parts of this country to the Republican Party.  Sounds like a great strategy, no?  No.

Anyway, I was getting all geared up to write a rebuttal, when a good friend saved me the trouble.  The following is her letter to Schaller. Enjoy!

Mr. Schaller: Interesting article - but you got two things wrong.

1. Mudcat Saunders "livelihood" doesn't depend on anything having to do with politics. The land he owns and many business interests he has outside politics make him more than financially secure. And, in fact, he generally picks his clients, not the other way around.

2. What you dismiss as semiotic gimmicks and symbolic gestures are more akin to a brilliant application of the work of philosphers and political scientists like Pierre Bordieu, who correctly assign much of political decision making to the emotions and socio-cultural associations than to self-interested logic.

You claim that intentional displays of respect for a people's culture in order to make them receptive to a political message, or using culturally respected third-party verifiers, is just a gimmick? Well, don't politicians do that all the time with Hispanic and African American communities?

Your typically arrogant assumption that white people in the south are acting out of racism is exactly the stereotyping from spokespersons of the Democratic Party Mudcat is seeking to move beyond. These people are often just voting to keep a little more in their paychecks from a government they have little faith in.

Your analysis just doesn't hold much water, I'm afraid. Perhaps you're feeling a touch of jealousy - after all your book and his are in direct competition. I'm afraid when it comes to political analysis - you're simply outclassed.

xxxx


Comments



Excellent Letter (DukieDem - 6/23/2006 11:50:34 AM)
This is a brilliant rebuttal to Mr. Schaller's article. I lost a lot of respect for his analysis when I saw at the bottom he was writing a book detailing why the Democrats should abandon the South - an attempt at political suicide if there ever was one.


Interesting debate and one that is good for the party. (va.walter - 6/23/2006 12:07:36 PM)
Where I agree with Mr. Shaller is the fact that demographic shifts are making "Mudcat's markets" less and less relevant.  The truth is that most growth is occuring in areas other than those stereotypically targetted by Mudcat.  And when growth does occur in those areas
(as we're obviously seeing thoughout the South) it is a different breed of people.  There is now a clear distinction between true Southerners and people who simply live in the South.

All of that said, Mudcat is right that the Democratic party has to craft a message that is not offensive to this still large block of voters.  Also, for specific candidates in specific states, it could make all the difference in the world.  As a national strategy, howevever, it may not work as well.



The problem with that (Dude - 6/23/2006 1:07:49 PM)
The problem with that is that much of this exurban growth is caused by transplants from rural areas.

As Steve and Mudcat point out in their book, there are tons of these rural "Bubbas" in new suburban areas, working in cities. The same strategy applies.



While true to a degree... (va.walter - 6/23/2006 1:42:20 PM)
The fact is that much of the growth is not made up of "rural Bubbas."  The growth in Fairfax for example is much more about people moving in from the northeast than it is about "rural Bubbas" moving in. 

Democrats in Virginia give Mudcat a ton of credit, in large part because of the Warner election.  And for the most part, it's deserved.  However, the truth since then is that the "rural Bubbas" (myself included) are becoming less and less relevant.  In 2006, if targetting city folk and rural Bubbas were mutually exclusive (which it of course isn't), you'd have to choose city folk no doubt.  The wise candidate will find a way to target the masses with a message and style that won't offend us country boys.  Wearing a Dixie hat and going to a NASCAR race (while wearing Armani back home) is not a good idea.



COMMENT HIDDEN (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 1:53:33 PM)


Ah, first day here! (phriendlyjaime - 6/23/2006 1:56:39 PM)
Welcome Lewis!


Are you rpetty... (va.walter - 6/23/2006 2:01:40 PM)
or did you just cut and paste his post from vaconservative?


Yup, cut'n'paste job. (loboforestal - 6/23/2006 2:22:51 PM)
http://vaconservative.com/archives/2006/06/23/mudcat-not-a-genius/#comments

Mudflap is one of those “legend in his own mind†kind of guys.

He’s the modern day version of a snakeoil salesman  perhaps even worst. He somehow thinks that a liberal candidate can wrap himself in NASCAR attire  pretend to know about racing  and that all will be well for the Democrats in the South. B.S.

When he talks, he gets very profane. Chances are…this is an action to overcompensate for a lack of self-esteem.

And, he has a great distrust for family values voters. In fact, he likes to talk down to them.

The bottom line with voters in the 5th, 6th and 9th congressional districts is that they don’t particularly care what you look like, how you dress, whether you watch NASCAR, or listen to bluegrass music…but they damn sure care about a candidate’s views on the issues.

To wrap a liberal in NASCAR clothing…is nothing less than pure snakeoil salesmanship at its worst.

Petty, indeed.



why don't you respond to the merits (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 2:36:13 PM)
lobo,
why don't you respond to the merits of the submission?

And, if you can tell me how many Winton Cup championships Richard Petty won and who Lewis Armistead was....I'll give you bonus points.

With loving affection,
rpetty a/k/a Lewis Armistead



Honestly, I'm not sure if there were any merits to respond to. (va.walter - 6/23/2006 2:49:55 PM)
And I'm really not a Mudcat fan at all.


How about this? (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 2:54:39 PM)
Do you agree or disagree with the following premise:

The bottom line with voters in the 5th, 6th and 9th congressional districts is that they don’t particularly care what you look like, how you dress, whether you watch NASCAR, or listen to bluegrass music…but they damn sure care about a candidate’s views on the issues.

Please state the basis for your agreement/disagreement.

It's that simple.



Merits or Winstons? (loboforestal - 6/23/2006 2:59:46 PM)
Nextel question?


Winston (the politically incorrect answer) (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 3:16:32 PM)
Since Winston was the sponsor when Petty won several championships....let's go with Winston.  Screw Nextel.  But, I do like their gadgets.


For the record ... (Brian - 6/23/2006 3:07:51 PM)
Richard Petty won seven Cup championships.  :)


Correct....now tell me about Lewis Armistead. (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 3:17:31 PM)
Now tell me about Lewis Armistead....and no "google" searching allowed.


sorry (loboforestal - 6/23/2006 3:25:22 PM)
I have to leave "early" to clean some plates.


hahahahaha (phriendlyjaime - 6/23/2006 3:30:38 PM)
Hey TPP!


too easy (teacherken - 6/23/2006 4:15:24 PM)
famous for leading the group of Pickett's chargethat actually penetrated the Federal lines but was shot down, captured, tended by the Feds (I believe a Capt. Bingham) and died on July 5.  Portrayed in the move The Killer Angels by the actor Richard Jordan (who also played the national security advisor in The Hunt for Red October).


not too shabby (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 4:27:18 PM)


COMMENT HIDDEN (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 2:07:49 PM)


Mudcat (martha - 6/23/2006 3:30:56 PM)
Lewis,

Are you from Roanoke?



Not from Roanoke (Lewis Armistead - 6/23/2006 3:33:10 PM)
Martha,
I'm not from Roanoke but rather parts north of there.


Mudcat (martha - 6/24/2006 5:41:58 AM)
Ask people from Roanoke what they think of Mudcat. He grew up there, has the flavor of SW VA in his bones and, in my opinion, a pretty good grasp on what people West of the James think.

I read these blogs and see that most people who comment are from NOVA, Richmond, the Eastern shore and VA Beach area. No offense, but you guys are pretty out of touch with what DEMS in this area of the state think, do and know.



What the hell? I'm so over this. (Kathy Gerber - 6/23/2006 7:52:32 PM)
Up front he calls Mudcat a "Dixie huckster."  I don't think we would tolerate an analogous term applied to any other ethnicity representing a group outside of the mainstream.  It would certainly be an unforgivable slur.

That Mudcat ought to drive a big rig, chew tobacco, shut up and vote like he's told.



Schaller's analysis of where Va vote comes from (Nell - 6/24/2006 5:43:08 PM)
makes much more sense to me than his broader thesis that Dems should forget about the deep south for a while (which I reject utterly; the 50-state organizing that Dean is fighting for is the single best thing for our party in a long, long time).

Feel free to take offense at the jabs Schaller takes at Mudcat Saunders, but don't let it stop you from reading the whole article, at least the part where he looks at the Warner and Kaine races and where those elections were won.

We are blessed this time to have a candidate who has a lot of natural appeal to the rural and southwestern parts of the state.  Many of us are just like Webb in being descended from the Scotch-Irish who trekked down the valley from Pennsylvania, settling along the way. 

But we're kidding ourselves if we think that even lopsided support for Webb over here will swing the election; we're just too thin on the ground.  Statewide elections are won or lost where the masses of voters are, and particularly where the masses of Democratic and Dem-leaning voters are.  The contribution we can make over here is to eat into the margin that Republican campaigns have traditionally counted on.



Few votes per precinct (ScottCoDemocrat - 6/25/2006 3:42:48 PM)
And turn out every single Democratic Vote in every precinct regardless of location.  A vote from Lee County counts just as much as a vote from Fairfax in a statewide election.  JUST ASK CREIGH DEEDS THE DIFFERENCE A FEW VOTES PER PRECINCT CAN MAKE IN A STATEWIDE RACE.