Two Loudoun County Democrats weigh in

By: Ingrid
Published On: 5/26/2006 3:37:58 PM

I received this from Dave Williams and John Flannery in Loudoun County.

Dear Friends and fellow Dems, 

We may have an opportunity to unseat Senator George Allen on his way to running for President of the United States.  The question is how may we best exploit this political opportunity?

We have two candidates in our Democratic primary fighting hard for that nomination and who want to take on Senator Allen, promising to stop him dead in his tracks.  In a traditional sense, as Democratic activists, each of us likely has legitimate reservations about the fine candidates who are seeking that nomination:

- Harris Miller is an old friend and party loyalist who has paid his dues, and knows the ropes, but, over the years as a lobbyist, he has contributed to the Republican Speaker of the House and supported, as a lobbyist, both legislation and policy that doesn+óGé¼Gäót suit our political taste.

- Jim Webb is a former Republican appointee who has supported Republicans including Senator Allen, and he is a political novice who comes late to our Democratic party.

So, how do we choose a nominee when we may have differences with each of the candidates? 

We suggest you choose the candidate best able to carry our message to the Democratic loyalists, to the Independents, and to those disenchanted Republicans who, according to the polls, are looking long and hard at what this Administration and Senator Allen are doing wrong.

We believe that Jim Webb is that candidate and we propose to tell you why.


Jim was one of those Reagan Democrats, the kind of working class, nationalistic voters who used to vote Democratic.  Jim is, however, returning to the Democratic party at a time when other Republicans, in local and national elections, are coming home to the Democratic party. 

We can all read the shifting polls in response to the daily news disasters occasioned by this Administration and by Senator Allen.  We are at a political turning point in American history and we have a grand opportunity to make a difference for the better.

Republicans are coming home because Democrats are talking sense, common sense that they understand, about the war and a host of other issues, and because no one can abide those social conservatives in the Republican party who insist on interfering in our private and personal business.

Jim is returning home to the Democratic fold and, in doing so, by his actions, he becomes an example and a voice for others who are bridging that metaphorical distance from their last Republican vote to their first vote for a Democratic candidate.

Jim is an outsider, no question about it, and that+óGé¼Gäós a good thing in a year when the +óGé¼+ôinside-the-beltway+óGé¼-¥ political cronies are awash in corrupt self-dealing. 

Jim is an outsider with the military credentials to speak with authority about the failed war in Iraq, and to criticize it in a way that Senator Allen cannot. 

Jim brings with him other +óGé¼+ôoutsiders+óGé¼-¥ as well, generals, who support Jim and enhance his crucial message that we are pursuing a failed policy in the Middle East.

As a decorated Vietnam veteran and a former Navy Secretary, Jim can explain why, as a political novice, as an outsider, that we are off track in Iraq, why we have to find, in Governor Kaine+óGé¼Gäós words, +óGé¼+ôa better way+óGé¼-¥ to bring America home to its core values

The Chair of our party, Howard Dean, once said we Dems had to learn to speak to guys with gun racks in their pick-up trucks.  We believe that Jim can do that and a lot more.  Sure Jim is still rough around the edges as a candidate.  But he will get better and, most importantly, he can and will win in the Fall +óGé¼GÇ£ if we give him the chance.

The turnout for this primary is going to be pitifully small.  Only a few voters will choose our candidate.  Ask yourself when you go to vote, who can win in November and replace George Allen?  We think it+óGé¼Gäós Jim Webb.  We hope you agree.

Dave Williams, former Secretary of the LCDC
John P. Flannery, former Chair of the LCDC


John Flannery was the Democratic nominee for Congress in 1984, after winning the Democratic primary against Harris Miller.

Comments



Excellent... (Loudoun County Dem - 5/26/2006 3:57:03 PM)
I enjoyed hearing your presentations last night as well...


Excellent points! (Info_Tech_Guy - 5/26/2006 5:16:35 PM)
There are alot of "small-d" democrats out there looking for candidates who aren't a part of the "problem". They value integrity, honesty, intelligence and competence. Jim Webb fits this very neatly. Hell yes, Jim Webb is an "outsider" in many ways but that in no way diminishes his understanding of the problems our country faces. Jim Webb epitomises patriotism and has all the qualities of a true democratic leader.


Please crosspost as diary at dailykos (teacherken - 5/26/2006 8:05:18 PM)
important that it be as widely seen as possible.  More Virginia voters actually read dkos than here.


Cross-posting? (thegools - 5/27/2006 1:04:51 PM)
How is that cross-posting done?


Just post the same diary somewhere else (Lowell - 5/27/2006 1:09:16 PM)
That's all "cross-posting" means.


COMMENT HIDDEN (Thomas Paine - 5/27/2006 9:13:36 AM)


And Miller, who got his butt kicked by Flannery... (Lowell - 5/27/2006 9:15:51 AM)
back in 1984?  If Flannery's a "hsa been," what does that make Harris Miller?  A guy who lost to a has-been 22 years ago?  Yipee!!  And you're honestly telling me you think Miller's a strong candidate?  What a joke. 


wonder what you've been smoking (teacherken - 5/27/2006 10:13:14 AM)
at my suggestion, Ingrid cross posted this diary at dailykos, where as i write this it is the #1 recommended diary.  And among the 20 or so comments, only two people are directly supportive of Miller, and far more of Webb.  If you don't believe me, take a look here


More than that... (Dan - 5/27/2006 11:49:27 AM)
Webb would also make a much better Democratic Senator than Harris Miller (if Miller had a chance in hell to win).  All things equal, you could choose Webb for that reason alone.


Good to see the positive posts on Kos. (summercat - 5/27/2006 11:51:30 AM)
Keep that good news coming!


people might be interested in a comparison (teacherken - 5/27/2006 3:39:26 PM)
Kevin Schmidt Sterling, a strong advocate of Miller (who seems to have some trouble reading or describing accurately, but that's a separate set of issues) chose to post a diary about why Miller was better than Webb. 

After I used my daily diary and my credibility with the Kos community (I have a user number of 4334 and the total number of registered users now approaches 90,000 -- I am also leading one of the panels at yearlykos), Ingrid's diary rapidly hit the recommended list, even though between 10';is last night when she posted it and when I wrote my diary around 8;30 it had only 4 recommends.  Kevin posted his diary perhaps 90 minutes later.  And the results?

Ingrid's diary had, as of 3:30. 114 recommends, and was for about an hour or so the  number 1 recommended diary.  Kevin;s got 3 recommends.  Most of the comments on his diary challenged his reasoning, on Ingrid's he was one of only a few who were outright hostile -- even Alice, when she posted, it was only to dialog with Kevin.

We still need work on the ground. But the battle in the blogosphere is over.  When Miller advocates resort to calling those national figures who endorse Webb '"old-line political hacks" thus demeaning people of the stature of Tom Daschle, Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Chris Dodd (to name only 4 of the present or former senators who have endorsed Webb - to zero for Miller) - you can realize that they are getting desperate.

Here's a key  -  Webb signs keep disappearing.  Get some. Keep replacing them.  If you know a place that they keep disappearing, perhaps even stake it out with a video camera.  Whether it is Allen supporters who fear running aginst Webb or Miller supporters who are getting desperate, video evidence would be devastating.

I would, but I may even be too sick to make the FC parade on Monday. 



Outstanding... (Loudoun County Dem - 5/27/2006 6:14:41 PM)
teacherken, could you post links to both of the diaries on dailykos? I'd love to compare them myself. Thanks!


the links as requested are in this comment (teacherken - 5/28/2006 8:36:30 AM)
for Ingrid's diary, use this link and you will go to a highly recommended diary with a lot of comment in agreement with the tone of the diary

For Kevin's diary (which he did NOT attempt to post over here) you can use this link and you will note that Kevin catches a lot of flak, and not just from me.



RE: Good job (JPTERP - 5/27/2006 9:57:21 PM)
Teacherken, you held your own very well.  Great job of keeping the focus on the candidates and issues.  In reference to Miller's defense of the Republican donations, it's worth point out that he could have resigned from ITAA or refused to give the donations.  Apparently expediency won out over his principles in that situation.  We're aware of what Webb did in a parallel situation while he was Secretary of the Navy.