Miller Petition Drive in Trouble?

By: Lowell
Published On: 4/12/2006 2:21:05 PM

This is interesting...

Subject: Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!

Date:  Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:56:59 -0400
Want to get a Democrat on the ballot?  Want to enjoy this beautiful weather?

FieldWorks , a political consulting firm, is hiring people to do signature gathering to get a Democrat on the ballot in Virginia.  The job is in Northern Virginia today and tomorrow only (April 12 and April 13, 2006). 

Please call FieldWorks at 202-667-4400. You must be a Virginia resident.

FieldWorks is paying $1.50/ signature (with 70%) validity rate.  You must be 18 years old and be eligible to vote in Virginia to perform this work.

I have confirmed that this is not, repeat NOT, the Webb campaign (we're all set, thank you!).  And I'm sure it's not the Allen campaign.  Gee, who does that leave, desperate for petition signatures to get on the ballot with 2 days to go?  Hmmmmmmmm..... :)


Comments



Said it before.... (Craig - 4/12/2006 2:31:00 PM)
...and I'll say it again: now that Webb's in the running, Miller's candidacy is as good as dead.  The smears he released didn't stick because a lot of Democrats stuck up for Webb, and Webb is already (likely) ahead in the signature game, meaning he has more grassroots support, and in primaries that really counts.

I stand by my prediction of 1 month ago: Webb will be the Dem nominee.



Smears (Virginia Centrist - 4/12/2006 4:30:09 PM)
I disagree. The smears hurt Webb pretty badly.


That's why we have to stike back (DanG - 4/12/2006 5:04:34 PM)
Until Miller's attacks on Webb's AA beliefs, Webb practically had the nomination wrapped up.  Now?  Ehh...not so much.  Now it's competetive again.


He keeps digging (Alicia - 4/12/2006 2:31:44 PM)
more and more into that cash!


That's the important point, Alicia (DanG - 4/12/2006 3:15:52 PM)
Webb has a bunch of big fundraisers coming up.  Why would Miller want to keep digging into his own funds?  The only reason is he needs them.

Plus, he's running out of time to collect signatures.  Everything is due on pretty soon.  I know Webb will be turning in his stuff any day.

This is no time to be begging for signatures.  You have to put all your signatures into a book or collection, have your lawyers go over them, get them to the Board of Elections and the Party for verification.  It's a lot to do, with very little time left.



WOW!!! (Loudoun County Dem - 4/12/2006 2:58:21 PM)
This really surprises me if Miller is short of petition signatures in Northern Virginia.

I went door to door and tapped friends for Webb sigs when on my own time but when we were doing any gathering as LCDC we offered Webb and Miller petitions (as well as Judy Feder). I remember a few voters who signed for Webb and skipped Miller but both seemed to be doing OK here in Loudoun County.

Isn't NOVA supposed to be Miller's base?



I can't imagine Miller hasn't reached 400 in NOVA (DanG - 4/12/2006 3:12:58 PM)
I think he has enough in NOVA.  Maybe he's still trying to reach 10,000 or something.  I don't know.


Could it be for a House candidate? (Loudoun County Dem - 4/12/2006 3:24:53 PM)
Does anyone know if Longmyer or Hurst is short? My wife is close to the Feder campaign and says that they are in good shape for sigs.


Nice call. I guess it's possible... (DanG - 4/12/2006 3:36:28 PM)
But can Hurst or Longmeyer afford a political consulting firm?  Can they afford to pay people to collect signatures?  I guess it's possible that it's one of them, but I would be VERY surprised.

I don't like the advertisement.  I wouldn't go unless I knew who it was.



My understanding is that Hurst (Lowell - 4/12/2006 3:40:02 PM)
is in great shape.


Longmyer (thegools - 4/12/2006 9:44:30 PM)
I spoke with Ken Longmyer yesterday and my understanding from him is that he has all the petitions he needs.


Signature drive (Ingrid - 4/12/2006 3:44:43 PM)
Loudoun County Dem: It's for Miller.


I can't resist. It's too easy... (Susan Mariner - 4/12/2006 5:22:16 PM)
I wonder if Miller will use his lack of ability to find a cheap and reliable source of signature gatherers as a reason to support a change in the existing laws requiring signature gatherers to be qualified voters in Virginia?  Clearly it would be much more efficient to be able to outsource these jobs as well.

Sorry.  I didn't want to say that, but I couldn't help myself.



Don't apologize... (Lowell - 4/12/2006 5:25:05 PM)
if Miller could outsource petition gathering to India, I'm sure he'd be thrilled to do it.  Same thing with voting, for that matter.  Hey, I've got an idea, how about we outsource lobbyists and trade association execs? :)


Yes, NoVA is where you go for you safety net (JC - 4/12/2006 5:02:40 PM)
You are required to have 400 in each of 11 CDs and 10,000 overall.  Some quick math tells you that if you get 400 in all 11 CDs, that is still only 4,400.  You have to find another 5,600 somewhere, and since NoVA is the most Dem-rich zone of the state, it makes sense to search there.

Another possibility: maybe Miller isn't short, maybe he's is trying to blow out the petition drive and turn in 20,000 signatures as a publicity stunt: "See, I got 20,000 signatures and Jim Webb only got 14,000--I should be the candidate."

Just a thought.



Publicity stunt? It's possible... (DanG - 4/12/2006 5:05:42 PM)
But there are cheaper ways to do that.


Petition Numbers (Neal2028 - 4/12/2006 5:09:08 PM)
Someone (who is pretty well-informed) told me that Miller will have about 12,000-13,000 signatures and Webb will have around 15,000-16,000.

But that most or all of Miller's 9th CD signatures came from the northeast part of the district.



That could be it... (DanG - 4/12/2006 5:10:55 PM)
Then maybe that's what Miller is doing in NoVA.  Maybe he's trying to make the numbers closer.


9th CD (Liberal Pi - 4/12/2006 5:39:15 PM)
Yep, those are definitely Miller's hired guns. I turned in fifty-five signatures to them in beautiful downtown Blacksburg, where they had been standing all day to gather roughly... three hundred and seventy signatures. They better hope that all the signatures are valid, otherwise they might be in for some trouble. They're paying better rates than they started in our area though. I only got seventy-five cents a signature. Anyway, all I can say with that is... Go Webb!


Pretty Good (Neal2028 - 4/12/2006 5:49:13 PM)
I can't help but get a laugh out of that.  Miller's paid staffers are for Webb.

I think that tells you something! :)



That is pretty funny (DanG - 4/12/2006 5:59:12 PM)
But cash is cash is cash.  Miller would get the signatures regardless.  If you're already sold on Webb, why not drain Miller of his funds?

I, however, just couldn't do it.  I couldn't think of a nice thing to say about the guy that would actually help collect signatures.



How about for $1,000 per signature? (Lowell - 4/12/2006 6:27:07 PM)
$10,000 per signature?
$100,000 per signature?
$1 MILLION per signature?

How badly do you detest Miller?  There MUST be a price at which you can be bought, Dannyboy! :)



Lowell, Lowell, Lowell (DanG - 4/12/2006 6:46:13 PM)
You should know at this point, buddy, that I can't be bought.  Period.

Though I do sympathize with Liberal Pi.  Hell, if it works for him, why not?  He needs the money.  And he's going to be voting for Webb regardless.  I guess I'm just not good enough to convince somebody of something I despise so much. 



How about collecting (Adam Malle - 4/12/2006 7:17:03 PM)
Miller signatures and donating the Money to the Webb Camp.


Now that's a creative fundraising idea. (DemTilDeath - 4/12/2006 7:23:54 PM)


I stand corrected (DanG - 4/12/2006 7:37:31 PM)
I think Adam got me.  I'd be willing to do that.  Hell, I'd be inspired.  Bravo, my friend.  I stand corrected.