Obama and Bill O'Reilly

By: Lowell
Published On: 9/4/2008 9:41:04 PM


This is really weird, but I give credit to Obama for standing his ground against this guy.  What do you think?


Comments



I think I want to take Bill Riley out back .... (ub40fan - 9/4/2008 10:01:58 PM)
and punch him out. Just one fast solid uppercut to the jaw .... the kind of punch that actually lifts a man off his feet and sends him rolling down the sidewalk.

At least Steven Colbert has made a fortune and career off the ever asinine "Papa-Bear".



Wow (aznew - 9/4/2008 10:02:58 PM)
Believe it or not, I'm actually surprised that Bill-O was so immature and rude during this interview. He's a moron, but he is usually more careful than that.


Yeah, he's truly an asshole (Lowell - 9/4/2008 10:04:41 PM)
Disrespectful jerk, why does anyone go on his show?


I simply cannot believe (aznew - 9/4/2008 10:21:45 PM)
he accused the man who is probably going to be the next president of "bloviating."

Meanwhile, will there be a open thread on McCain speech? I cannot believe they put a green background behind him.



same here (jasonVA - 9/5/2008 1:18:31 PM)
Yeah I watched that last night and was actually surprised that O'Reilly was so rude and disrespectful towards Obama.  I weirdly expected a little more from him.  I've always considered O'Reilly to be more about his own giant ego than strictly about partisan Republican issues.  He made himself look like a bigger dick than usual here.


Wow on two fronts (Rob - 9/4/2008 10:19:21 PM)
1.  Bill-O is being a total jerk.  He's usually one, but now?  He's showing absolutely no respect to Obama.

2.  Barack-O did really really well, in my opinion.  Actually got in great points throughout, notwithstanding Bill-O's rudeness.  



Going there lends legimacy to a fraud of a "news" company. (KathyinBlacksburg - 9/4/2008 11:28:52 PM)
Dems should boycott FAUX and let FOX talk to itself.


I generally agree, but... (Lowell - 9/4/2008 11:29:51 PM)
...this could work for Obama if he stands his ground against the idiot/bully O'LIElly.


Agreed. (hallcr3 - 9/4/2008 11:46:46 PM)
Sen. Obama handled himself VERY well and was clear with his responses. I can see a lot of Republicans who were on the border watching this and liking what they see.  


I agree 100% (aznew - 9/4/2008 11:51:11 PM)
The reason should be made clear. The problem is not that it is conservative in perspective.

The problem is that it operating as a de facto propaganda arm of the Republican Party.



Obama did fine (Dan - 9/5/2008 12:12:24 AM)
Obama did a fine job.  It sucks that Obama gave Bill O'Douchebag another 3 nights to cover on his crappy show.  
Obama made some really good points.  We have the power of the purse with Pakistan and we shouldn't turn our backs when they abuse the help we give them.  It would be so wonderful to have Obama in office, and completely throw out all the bullshit and all the wrong turns from the last 8 years.  

O'Reilly had little respect for the man that is likely to become President.  What will Fox News do when Obama is in office?  I wonder.  



I actually think it's kind of cool that he got on Fox News during McCain's speech (Silence Dogood - 9/5/2008 12:44:17 AM)
This was supposed to be John McCain's night, and Obama's sneaking into a prime-time interview with top billing and standing his ground on areas where they agree--but without being disagreeable, and emphasizing where he agrees with the conservative commentator (and, in all likelihood, many of his viewers).

Because even if it doesn't win him too many more votes, why should you let John McCain monopolize one of the last nine Thursday nights of the election?



Oh, BTW, on O'Reily's point that no American President would ever send US Troops into Pakistan? (Silence Dogood - 9/5/2008 12:53:20 AM)
Our current President just sent US troops into Pakistan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Looks like at some point between the taping of the interview and the airing on Fox, President Bush decided to reverse course after realizing once again that maybe Barack Obama knows what he's talking about when it comes to foreign policy after all.  Chalk it up on the big board along with diplomatically engaging with Iran and North Korea.

Bloviating, indeed.



Oh, and timelines. (Silence Dogood - 9/5/2008 12:59:31 AM)
How could I forget about timelines for withdrawl from Iraq ("surrender" in McCainspeak).

So in summary, a comprehensive list of things that George W. Bush decided to change his mind on and agree with Barack Obama include:
1. Diplomatically engaging with North Korea to encourage them peacefully to abandon nuclear weapons.

2. Engaging in direct diplomacy with Iran in order to attempt a peaceful resolution of that nation's broad nuclearization program.

3. Setting timetables for the withdrawl of US ground forces in Iraq.

4. Limited commando raids into Pakistan to deny Al Qaeda and the Taliban safe havens from which to conduct operations across the border into Afghanistan.

...Geez, when you look at the whole list, sudden George W. Bush is the one who looks like a maverick!



Good point... (snolan - 9/5/2008 7:47:22 AM)
I neglected to consider the timing...  yes - appearing on Fox or ABC during McCain's night is noteworthy and interesting, but the continuation of giving material to a bloviating fool like O'Reilly into next week is silly...

It'd be better to suddenly have two town-hall meetings with McCain, giving an excuse to stand up O'Reilly, and stomp McCain in a direct dialogue.



No this is a win for Obama... (chiefsjen - 9/5/2008 9:36:25 AM)
bill is milking it for another 3 days,  that gives Obama 4 nights of free face time.

Bill actually for the most part wasn't a jerk in my opinion and i freakin' hate that guy... i felt that he asked good questions, but then would try to interrupt, obviously being a jerk again...however, he did ask some questions that i too want answers for from Barack.  There's still some major foreign policy issues that i am unclear of barack's stances and everybody knows i'm 100000% behind barack.

bill told barack that he was right about iraq being the wrong battleground from the beginning and thanked him for being a man of his word... those are 2 huge issues when trying to deflect character assassinations by the right and i would use that to any republican that tries to say otherwise...hey, bill o. even said it, and then let them stand there and flame away at bill o, not barack.

they'll turn on themselves.



Agree (Silence Dogood - 9/5/2008 11:32:12 AM)
O'Reily did occassionally try and cut off Obama just before Obama was about to make a good point (and Obama refused to let him do so), but that's the sort of thing you expect.  It's the things I would NEVER have expected from Bill O'Reily that really stood out for me--saying that he thought Barack was originally right about the War in Iraq being the wrong war, saying that he thought Al Qaeda came to Iraq after we invaded, and agreeing that we should demand Iraq pay their own share of the reconstruction costs with their oil surpluses.

Those are three specific instances where a conservative TV commentator on a highly-rated 24/7 cable news network said that Barack Obama was right about foreign policy.  Bill O'Reily's going to gab away on Fox News about Obama v. McCain one way or another.  He needs to pay the bills, after all, and this is how he makes his living.  Given the choice, then, would you rather the millions of voters who watch Fox News hear about instances where Barack Obama has been right on foreign policy?  Or would you rather they stick to their daily diet of how Obama's an inexperiened celebrity muslim and his baby-mama Michelle is the black Hillary Clinton?



I am disappointed (snolan - 9/5/2008 7:43:02 AM)
1) Why pay any attention to O'Reilly and Fox other than to monitor them for criminal activity so you can press charges.  I think Obama should have continued to ignore the bastards; as the rest of American is finally learning to do.

I know this flies in the face of Obama's effort to reach out to everyone, even across the aisle; but there are people who are being willfully ignorant and we are at war with them.  O'Reilly and his remaining fans are unreachable, best to encourage them to move to the theocratic countries they want to live in.

2) Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy.  When Obama begins this stupid interview by agreeing that terrorism is the enemy and that we are at war with terrorism he both let's the ring-wing circle jerks continue to phrase the conversation (we can never allow that again) and he is endorsing an outright lie.  Terrorism is not an enemy, it is a tactic.  It may be a tactic you find offensive, much like torture, but you cannot win a war against either torture or terrorism; only those who use both.  Sadly, our own country has a history of using both, and we'd need to stop using both before we can honestly and openly go after others using these tactics.  Al Qaeda is an enemy.  The Taliban are an enemy.  Terrorism is a choice that enemies may use.

Obama has done better before.



that was great (floodguy - 9/5/2008 9:06:09 AM)
That was a great interview on both sides of the discussion.

For a O'Reilly, he didn't through any softballs and essentially debated him on the issue as a journalist.  Tough but that's O'Reilly and there's really no one out there that does it that way, at least not from the right.  Why criticize O'Reilly when that's exactly what is needed - toughness in questions, approach and detail.  

That being said, Obama did a more than acceptable job in not only dealing with O'Reilly's style as a proponent from the opposite view, he did a fine job in terms on substance in response.  

Who says Obama needs a VP candidate to support his lack of foreign policy experience?  I thought that's the job of the Sec of State, Def and the NSA?  

Nothing to be ashame of here, and furthermore, no hard feelings towards O'Reilly.  He handle it w/o a hitch...BRING IT ON!!!  



Republicans I know (CADeminVA - 9/5/2008 5:21:53 PM)
Wouldn't watch Obama if he parted the Red Sea (I know, I know), but they watch O'Reilly religiously. It means they get to see their idol act like a disrespectful dork to the next President of the United States. They get to see Obama handle himself with aplomb and class, not backing down and doing a little masterful verbal jiu-jitsu on the "Papa Bear". And they get to see it for 3 nights next week, too. Maybe one, or two, or three, fed up with the lameness and lies of the "John Bush" campaign will say, "Hmmmm. Maybe I've misunderestimated this Muslim guy. I can't vote for him, but that doesn't mean I have to vote for McSame. Isn't Bob Barr on the ballot, too?"


Not worth Obama's time (Kindler - 9/5/2008 9:01:40 PM)
Personally, I think this is totally the wrong venue for Obama.  He is a thoughtful and polite person in a conversation with a bully who wants to push him into a shouting match.  I could see his discomfort in some of his body language, as well as he tried to hide it.

What percentage of O'Reilly's audience would even consider voting for Obama?  If slim to none, then why go on the show?  I can't see any reason other than to keep a promise to Rupert Murdoch -- when you know Fox is going to do everything they can to ream Obama regardless.

How is this anything other than a sad waste of time?