Wes Clark Calls John McCain "Mechanistic" and "Militaristic"

By: Lowell
Published On: 6/29/2008 8:00:44 PM


Watch the entire video, and see the "mechanistic"/"militaristic" comment at 5:50.


Comments



Face the Nation Host shows his bias (KathyinBlacksburg - 6/29/2008 8:48:13 PM)

And this video footage kinda makes my general point about the pro-McCain media, doesn't it?  But then what would we expect.   when Bob Sheifer has a brother who's served in the Bush admin. Bob himself, like so many other personality media gasbags, who parties with the rich, famous, and connected, has even has golfed with the prez and golfed his way to his bias.  Also, here's a photo of Bob's well connected bro, which makes my point.

 



COMMENT HIDDEN (Rebecca - 6/29/2008 9:25:26 PM)


The Forestal (martha - 6/30/2008 5:57:45 AM)
My cousin's husband was on that ship and locked below as the bottom levels were sealed to prevent the spread of the fire.It was unclear if they would be safe. He smelled burning bodies and it has affected him and subsequently his family forever.


a stern caution to Rebecca (j_wyatt - 6/30/2008 7:41:36 PM)
You might want to make a reasonable attempt to get the whole story before spreading scurrilous dirt like this crap.  Seriously, this ranks right down there with saying Obama attended a madrassa.

Yes, Senator McCain was in line awaiting launch when the fire started.  And, yes, Senator Obama did attend a public school in Indonesia that had a small mosque.

As to you stating unequivocally that "McCain set a huge fire on the USS Forrestal", you are claiming that Senator McCain was personally responsible for the horrific death of 134 of his shipmates, the wounding of 161, $ 72 million damage to the Forrestal and the destruction of several dozen jet aircraft.  You should be ashamed.

About 10:50 (local time) on the 29th, while prepearations for a second strike were being made ..., an unguided 5-inch Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in a LAU-10 underwing rocket pod mounted on a F-4 Phantom II, was accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external power to internal power.

The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on a A-4 Skyhawk awaiting launch, either aircraft No. 405, piloted by LCDR Fred D. White, or No. 416, piloted by future U.S. Senator and Presidential candidate, LCDR John McCain.  The warhead's safety mechanism prevented it from detonating, but the impact tore the tank off the wing and ignited the resulting spray of escaping JP-5 fuel, causing an instantaneous conflagration.  Other external fuel tanks overheated and ruptured, releasing more jet fuel to feed the flames which spread along the flight deck, leaving pilots in their aircraft with the options of being incinerated in their cockpits or running through the flames to escape. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1...



Par for the course, J (aznew - 6/30/2008 8:12:59 PM)
Follow the links from the website Rebecca provides, and it leads you to another website talking about McCain and the Forrestal.

Read that website, and you come to this little gem that explains it all:

McCain's various stories never added up. Somehow, he was at the center of the USS Forrestal fire. His father covered up the biggest war crime in American naval history, the USS Liberty attack, and saved Israel. Now, McCain is shot down over Vietnam, and the Jewish/Communists  supposedly tortured him half to death?  After what McCain's father did for the Communists, he could have demanded anything.

The Zionists cooked the Forrestal story for a reason. They said McCain was on the catapult, but video shows he wasn't.

Whether Obama, Clinton, or McCain get elected doesn't matter. They will all do what the Zionists tell them to do. The Americans will need a fiscal collapse to motivate them, and then they will seek a electoral impeachment/recall.

Rebecca has been known to traffic in various conspiracy theories put forth by anti-Semites previously.

See, for example:

http://www.raisingkaine.com/sh...



Forrestal Fire (South County - 6/30/2008 8:24:16 PM)
...caused the Navy to change how they arm aircraft weapons while the planes are sitting on the flight deck.  Before they were armed in advance.  After the accident, one of the rainbow warriors on the deck plugs in the cord arming the weapon immediately before the cat launch so that this doesn't happen again.

All I can say is watch the video of the accident.  McCain is sitting in his plane when a rocket from an nearby plane hits his aircraft.  You may also want to take note of what he did after this terrible incident.  When he could have gone on to a safer assignment, he volunteered, repeat volunteered, for duty with another squadron deploying to Vietnam.  Of course, that led to him being shot down and being held as a POW.

Going after McCain's military record such as we've seen by Wes Clark and others, really does McCain a favor.  He wants to talk about military resumes.  Make him play on our side of the playing field, not his.



Clark didn't go after McCain's military service (Lowell - 6/30/2008 8:37:10 PM)
Not in the least bit, in fact the exact opposite (he praised McCain's heroism).  What Clark said is that McCain's military service doesn't mean he's a foreign policy expert (Shi'a? Sunni? Huh?) or that he would make a good commander in chief. That's all.


McCain's Military Record (South County - 6/30/2008 9:06:21 PM)
Clark quotes from last few days:

"[McCain] has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he has traveled all over the world, but he hasn't held executive responsibility."

The squadron in the Navy that McCain commanded "wasn't a wartime squadron," said Clark.  "He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall."

"I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president," Clark said.

Sounds like comments aimed at his military record to me, but then again you must consider the soruce, Clark will say anything to draw attention to himself.  If there was an election in the Army for dog catcher between Clark and a 19 year old private, the private would win 100%-0%.  He's more disliked than George Steinbrenner at Fenway Park.  A more effective point would be to ask about  McCain's plans for the economy, creatig a green energy future, or easing the housing crunch.

Anyway, getting to the main point about McCain's national security credentials, I'm convinced this is a losing road for democrats to follow.  McCain has been on the Armed Services Committee since Obama was in college.  He has forgotten more about defense than most of us put together will ever know.  He correctly challenges the DoD acquisition process that is totally slanted toward the contractors.  He is the keynote speaker at the Munich security conference each year on U.S.-European-NATO defense issues.  He tracks the arcane political developments in Eastern Europe in detail.  All I know is that when I was an intern in McCain's office in 1999, he was warning everyone about some rag-tag bunch of idiots riding around with AK-47's in pickup trucks in Afghanistan called the Taliban, but of course everyone was focused on Monica.  I'm not saying he's always right, but don't make it into a resume comparison contest.



Best Quote (Shawn - 6/29/2008 9:44:28 PM)
"...Barack Obama is simply more ready to be President that Barack Obama ..."


Schieffer said that Barack Obama is ready by day one than Barack Obama... (lgb30856 - 6/30/2008 9:07:12 AM)
.. and didn't evern catch it.
Hiiarious..


Wes Clark is exactly right (Quizzical - 6/30/2008 7:11:59 PM)
Wes Clark is right to point out that we can't assume that McCain's military experience has necessarily fitted him for the Presidency.  I think McCain should be treated with the appropriate respect, but he shouldn't get a pass.

It reminds me of what was said about Curtis LeMay, when he got into Presidential politics: if you wanted to send in the bombers, you'd want LeMay in the lead bomber, but you wouldn't want him to decide whether you go or not.

How true, as it later was revealed:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f...

It's occurred to me that the "Greatest Generation", after they got home from WWII, didn't put a succession of generals into the White House after Eisenhower.  They knew better.