Margaret Carlson: Webb is "the perfect fit" for Obama

By: Lowell
Published On: 5/22/2008 8:18:24 AM

As you know, we here at RK strongly support Jim Webb as Barack Obama's running mate. Increasingly, others are seeing the glaringly obvious advantages as well.  Now, it's Margaret Carlson of Bloomberg.com, who writes that "Webb's Just the Reagan Democrat Obama Needs":

It's time for Senator Barack Obama to place the following ad:

WANTED -- Military man south of Mason Dixon line, at home in a helmet, hardhat and combat boots. Political experience in a red state and knowledge of firearms helpful. Applicant must be familiar with bowling, boxing and bass fishing. College degree not required. Wine drinkers need not apply. Interested parties please respond to veepstakes@obama.com.

Pretty much what we've been saying, except that I never knew Jim Webb bowled. :)  Still, as Margaret Carlson writes, "Webb the perfect fit for a party desperately in search of Reagan Democrats."  The question is, will the party be smart enough to realize that?  We'll see sometime this summer.

P.S.  If you agree with Margaret Carlson, please sign the petition. Thanks.


Comments



And what do we do about this guy? (beachmom - 5/22/2008 8:28:58 AM)
http://www.time.com/time/natio...

"Her husband, for one, seems to have a pretty clear idea what he thinks she should get as a consolation prize. In Bill Clinton's view, she has earned nothing short of an offer to be Obama's running mate, according to some who are close to the former President."

And the entitlement of her supporters, many of whom insist the nomination was "stolen" from her (they never explain exactly how).  This is a difficult situation, for which I do not want her on the ticket, but it is like she is holding her voters hostage if he does not ask her.

I agree somebody like Webb would be good or Joe Biden, but right now she won't concede, and is getting more absurd by the day with her arguments.  How do we get around all of this?



Urge superdelegates (Lowell - 5/22/2008 8:34:08 AM)
to pledge for Obama.  Get the DNC rules' committee meeting out of the way and finally resolve Michigan and Florida in a reasonable way.  Then, the race will be over, Obama will be the nominee, and Clinton can go back to the Senate, en route to the Supreme Court perhaps.


I hope it goes as smoothly as you foresee (beachmom - 5/22/2008 8:43:12 AM)
From what I understand this is not just about the presidency but power within the Democratic party.  This really is Obama's first diplomacy test.  If he plays it right, then he will be showing yet again that he is the most suited for the presidency.


the numbers don't lie (teacherken - 5/22/2008 9:07:08 AM)
Try this analysis and you will see why it is silly for Clinton to keep on keeping on

as far as VEEP -  unless she is willing to publicly disclose their 2007b income and taxes (they filed for an extension) as well as all contributors to Bill's library and foundation, she unwilling to accept proper vetting and should be disqualified.  Because if that info were to come out, it would be clear how they have been trading on the possibility of HRC becoming president -  this is far worse than Terry McAuliffe selling nights in the Lincoln Bedroom



A question (tx2vadem - 5/22/2008 12:59:52 PM)
What have they been doing that would be potentially damning?  It sounds as though you are suggesting bribery.  So, I would be interested in the information you have that substantiates this.  


Mathematically (relawson - 5/22/2008 12:03:13 PM)
I think if you gave Clinton the proportion of delegates in Florida that she would have gained had the election been legitimate, it changes nothing.  So, to end this thing, proportion the Florida delegates according to how the votes fell.  Not fair for Obama, but it solves a problem.

In Michigan, just split the delegates 50-50.  That or have a revote, which probably won't happen at this point.  Mail in ballots could be done in two weeks.



But Jim Webb has been known to drink wine (teacherken - 5/22/2008 9:04:03 AM)
will that disqualify him?


Has he ever had a latte? (Rebecca - 5/22/2008 12:01:10 PM)


Or, Even Worse, Has He Turned Down... (BP - 5/22/2008 1:45:14 PM)
...a latte in favor of orange juice?  And exactly how much does he pay for his haircuts?

I'd bet Senator Webb could elevate the tone of the VP debates just by giving the moderators the kind of look that says, "go ahead, ask me one of those stupid haircut or bowling questions, I dare you."



why webb wont be vp (pvogel - 5/22/2008 9:12:20 AM)
They will tear him a new one, citing his 1970s article "women cant fight"


I don't recall the details (aznew - 5/22/2008 9:48:54 AM)
But didn't Webb deal with this during the Senate campaign?


That article is old news (Catzmaw - 5/22/2008 10:02:34 AM)
does not even say what the Allen smear claimed it did, and can easily be deflected by pointing out how many different ways McCain and the Republican party are not looking out for the issues of interest to women.  

I wish everyone would stop talking about how awful the article was and go back and read the damn thing.  Aside from some obnoxious comments which Webb has said he regrets deeply the tenor of the article had much more to do with whether it was appropriate to change the culture of the Academy and it discussed the extreme harshness of combat conditions which Webb, speaking as someone who'd been through the hell of the An Hoa Basin, was thinking of when he thought of combat.  There were many complimentary comments about women as leaders in the same article, including his expectation that we'd see a woman president one day and his praise for Margaret Thatcher.  His record with military women is very good, the only exceptions being the whining Republican party hacks who made that stupid commercial against him - and let's not forget to ask ourselves what McCain's position on the change at the Academy was.  Most of the old Academy guys strongly opposed it and it's likely a quote could be found somewhere.  

Webb opened up a lot of billets for women in the Navy, cleared the way for the promotion of the first African American female to admiral, and has expressed a lot of admiration for the women combat pilots and medics in Iraq and Afghanistan.  His thinking has matured and moderated.  That's what happens after 32 years for most people.  

I'd advise everyone who wants to understand where Webb was coming from when he wrote the article to read Fields of Fire, A Sense of Honor, and the article itself.



Obama's Vetting Process (The Grey Havens - 5/22/2008 10:10:47 AM)
Marc Ambinder has a great writeup on how the Obama team will vet their prospective VP.

They're going to start the process early and be extremely thorough.

Potential ticket-mates, in no particular order, include Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA), former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-GA), Gov. Tim Kaine (D-VA), Ex-Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD), Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM), Ex-Sen. John Edwards, (D-NC), Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS), Gov. Janet Napolitano (D-AZ), Sen. John Biden (D-DE), Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA), Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) ex-Rep. Tim Roemer (D-IN), Gov. Ted Strickland (D-OH) and others.

I find it interesting that even though its in "no particular order", this list puts Jim Webb first... coincidence?  Maybe, maybe not.



I've Been Thinking About This (mmc0412 - 5/22/2008 1:54:17 PM)
I am wholeheartedly for Webb as Obama's VP and have signed the petition.  Regarding your question of will the Democratic party be smart enough for realize it, I've been thinking about that.  It almost seems to me that the Democratic party themselves is possibly pushing the idea of a Webb VP subliminally.  Has anyone noticed all the articles about Obama's "Appalachia" problem this past week?  I'm not so sure this bent isn't being put out by the Democrats themselves to "ready" the country for an Obama/Webb ticket.  I mean it was Webb himself who literally wrote the book about Appalachians and politics ("Born Fighting").  It was Webb who said something to the effect that bringing blacks and Appalachians together would solidfy a base in the area.  And the timing of these articles with the release of Webb's new book and his book tour are quite coincidental, no?  And let's not forget Webb's glorious rebuttal to the State of the Union Address.  They put him out there for a reason.

Anyway, it's just a feeling I have - I have no proof whatsoever.  But, Webb is the perfect choice for Obama's VP.  And I think it's going to happen.



The no case (humanfont - 5/22/2008 2:12:48 PM)
The McCain people will drag up all the same crap that was thrown at Webb 2 years ago.  Have you forgotten the quotes about women in the military?  

I love Jim Webb as our Senator, but we are deluding ourselves if we think he can solve any problems for Obama.  He won because NoVA and Hampton roads turned blue for him; not because of any connection he made in Appalachia.  He is barely polling over 50% in VA approval, so he won't bring this state into any more play (Mark Warner would be a different story).  

Obama needs to shore up the democratic base in blue collar and women voters.  Hillary has played herself into that role.  

Finally Webb would hate being VP.  Senators get to be the center of their own little universe accountable only every 6 years.  VP's get to go to funerals and open walmarts.  



I like Webb, but... (David Campbell - 5/22/2008 3:07:01 PM)
...he wouldn't be Obama's best pick for Vice President.

Webb has emerged as a Senate leader, but he (like Obama) has relatively little political experience.  He isn't well known outside Virginia and isn't even popular enough in Virginia to help carry the state.

Webb has repeatedly said he doesn't want the job and hasn't even endorsed Obama.

If Obama wants to shore up his foreign policy credentials with a VP pick, he would do better Nunn.  If he wants to help carry a whole region, he would do better with Richardson.  If he needs to capture the support Clinton feminists, he should choose Sebelius.

Maybe I'm just selfish, but I would rather keep Webb to ourselves as Virginia's senior Senator (and add Mark Warner).



An interesting critique (Randy Klear - 5/24/2008 12:53:28 AM)
Guest blogger Neil Sinhababu just did a rundown of Democratic VP possibilities at washingtonmonthly.com (Kevin Drum's blog). His top picks for VP: John Edwards, Kathleen Sebelius, and Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio (a name out of left field, but worth looking at). At the top of his overrated list? The junior senator from Virginia:

...when we're trying to get 60 votes for health care reform, we can't afford to lose a Democratic seat in Virginia while Tim Kaine is still ineligible to run.

And this:

Another thing is that I'm usually not a big fan of ticket-balancing, especially for something like credibility on foreign policy issues. Mori Dinauer is right that if Obama picks Webb for those purposes, the media narrative becomes "Obama lacks credibility on foreign policy issues -- that's why he had to pick Webb!"

And most especially this, which we in Virginia have forgotten, or perhaps suppressed:

I wonder if he's really up for life in the presidential fishbowl. With career politicians, you can usually have more confidence that they'll be able to put up with all the BS that comes with running for national office. I've talked to a couple people who watched his Senate race, who say that campaigning 24/7 for months on end isn't really his forte.


Why is Tim Kaine "still ineligible to run" ? (Tom Counts - 5/24/2008 3:41:14 PM)
The discussion here is about who (in Va.) might be a good VP choice, and if Webb were to be elected VP who should/would replace him in the Senate. I know of no reason that Kaine has ever been ineligible to run for VP or U.S. Senate, much less be "still inelgible".

Maybe the blogger is thinking about the fact that Kaine can't be elected Va. Governor for consecutive terms, but that has no bearing at all on eligibility to run for either the Senate or VP. Granted, if Kaine were to be elected Senator or VP the Lt. Governor would become Governor, but that's only for one year and we already have two excellent Dem. candidates for the gubernatorial race next year.

Again, why would Kaine be inelgible to run for any Federal office ? The ineligibility statement doesn't make any logical sense to me. Maybe I'm misreading it ?

                       T.C.



I'm not an expert on this (Lowell - 5/24/2008 4:17:01 PM)
but I believe it varies state by state.  For instance, check this out:

Gov. Charlie Crist could run for president or vice president without having to give up his governorship, under a proposed change to the state's "resign-to-run" law set for debate this afternoon.