Vote suppression being prepared in North Carolina?

By: Rebecca
Published On: 5/2/2008 10:06:12 AM

I just heard a report from someone in North Carolina who said rubber ducks with "Vote early for Obama, call here for a ride." written on them is a hoax. People who have called the number say its inoperable. There are thousands of these ducks floating around so the Obama people who don't check the number ahead of time may lose their vote.

I think it would be helpful if the Democrats develop some voter suppression detection actions they can take before elections to prevent people from being caught in this type of scam.


Comments



If you think you're helping Obama, you're not. (TheGreenMiles - 5/2/2008 10:58:29 PM)
Your Clinton attacks are really getting out of control. Can you cite any outlet for this at all, reputable or not?


Rubber Ducks (Flipper - 5/3/2008 3:05:21 AM)
This is way over the top.  To state that you received a report from someone in North Carolina who said this was ocurring just does not seem very credilbe - and sounds as though it belongs on the front page of the National Enquirer, next to the article about Star Jones being separated at birth from her twin brother, who is now her soon to be ex-husband, rather than being posted on a political blog.  

And if your source has credible information abut this ocurring, he or she should contact the North Carolina Democratic party. Or if you have documentation in a news article you really need to post it with your diary.    

Making outlandish statements about voting rights in a state still governed by the Voting Rights Act is contemptable.  

Grow up.

 



I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt (Silence Dogood - 5/3/2008 6:57:26 PM)
And googled the words "North Carolina rubber ducks and filtered for news.  An article did come up in Greensboro...about a dog show.  It's actually kind of cute, you can read it here if you like: http://www.news-record.com/app...

Unfortunately I can't even find any mention of vote supression from the regular tin-foil hat wearers, so....



Rebecca, No Ducks BUT: (Flipper - 5/4/2008 12:06:16 AM)
Looks like Rebecca's friend in North Carolina was in fact on to something afterall regarding voter suppression in North Carolina - minus the rubber ducks.

According to the Washington Post, Women's Voices, Women Vote, headed up by Page Gardner of Virginia, which focuses on registering unmarried women to vote across the country, has landed in legal hot water in North Carolina for robo-calling voters after the primary registration date and for not identifying the name of the group in the call:

Voters and watchdog groups complained about the calls, and North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper ordered them to stop on Wednesday. Some saw a turnout-suppression conspiracy because the group's allies include so many Clinton supporters, especially Podesta and Williams.

On Friday, Barack Obama's campaign weighed in by circulating the transcript of a National Public Radio report on the calls. It noted that the North Carolina calls seemed to heavily skew to African Americans, including many women who had already registered, causing them to question whether they were eligible to vote in the primary on Tuesday.

In a statement released on its Web site, the group explains that the calls were part of a general-election outreach effort in 24 states and coincided with mailings that conveyed a similar "hurry up and register" message. But in other states as well, the mailings and calls were placed after primary registration deadlines had passed, sowing confusion and leading to other legal complaints against the group.

"The calls were scheduled to coincide with the arrival of the voter registration applications," the group said in a statement. "We regret any confusion that has arised as a consequence of this timing." Podesta weighed in as well, calling the North Carolina situation "a mistake of judgment and execution, and not an attempt to disenfranchise voters."

Although the calls have stopped, the group is chasing down postal trucks to withdraw the mailers from circulation. Inside the organization, there is plenty of finger-pointing about who's to blame -- but by the end of the week, even some of the bloggers who had raised the specter of a Clinton conspiracy seemed to accept that shoddy management, despite all that talent, was the more likely culprit.

This group does great work across the country registering a large demographic group of voters who side with Dems in most elections, and by large numbers I might add.  But, having said that, this public relations nightmare is really unexcuseable.  The confusion on the ground that has been caused as a result of this debacle gave the Attorney General of North Carolina no choice but to stop the calls.

If you are calling into North Carloina on primary day this Tuesday, keep these events in mind.

And finally, a note to Rebecca.  Even though the facts in your original post were way off base, your initial premise of voter supression was right on target.  Please accept my apology for my harsh words.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

 



Flipper your words weren't harsh (AnonymousIsAWoman - 5/5/2008 2:56:10 PM)
You went out and sourced a legitimate story.  That's much different from what Rebecca did.  I truly wish she would do two things.

First, get her facts straight and do the research.  Please come back with a properly sourced diary, using credible sources.

Then, reign in baseless attacks that will backfire and hurt her own candidate.  The last thing any Democrat needs is to look foolish in public.  It's going to be a long hard race right up until November.  

So this next is for all of us, not just Rebecca.  Please lets do well researched, properly attributed, and well written stories that stick to issues and help our Democratic candidate and not give amunition to our opponents.



I know the origin of this story (Catzmaw - 5/5/2008 12:39:24 PM)
It was part of a call in to C-Span last week during Washington Journal.  I forget who the guest was, but a young man called in and said he was a student at a North Carolina university and had found yellow ducks placed around campus with a caption advising people who wanted a ride to the polls to call the number.  The young man said the number was to a cell phone with an Ohio area code, and there was a message attached which said if the caller wanted help getting to the polls he'd have to make other arrangements.  It sounded, from the context, like some over-enthusiastic young Obama supporter had placed these ducks around advising people to call, had realized that he'd bitten off more than he could chew, and was therefore advising people to make other arrangements.  I did not get the impression at all that this was part of a vote-rigging campaign, but more like an ill-advised, poorly organized attempt to help get out the Obama vote.  

Rebecca, you would get a lot farther in this forum if you would stop going off on things and making wild and baseless charges.  You should have asked your source about this "report" and made an effort to determine its origins and its reliability before drawing unwarranted conclusions and starting a rumor about nefarious doings which never happened.  What worries me is that this report is now being broadcast all over the internet, without attribution and without context, and those who see it will perpetuate the baseless accusations and unwarranted conclusions against their fellow Democrats.  If Hillary's people do wrong and it can be proved, then they deserve to be called on it, just as Obama's people should be, but this demonization of the opposition has got to stop.