I mean about the thirty pieces of silver, managing to imply not only betrayal but bribery in one fell swoop. Why did the Ragin' Cajun not come right out and ask Richardson if Obama had promised him the vice-presidency, or a plum cabinet post, maybe a return to the UN in exchange for endorsement?

If you're a Democrat these days, who needs enemies? Your supposed friends (i.e., fellow Democrats) can out-Rove the Republicans. Is everybody else in the grassroots as sick (literally) and tired (very) as I am of the deliberate destruction (attempted) of the Democrat(ick) Party? Bah, humbug, and Happy Easter to all, believers and unbelievers.

I think he was just talking about the betrayal aspect, irrespective whether you agree or disagree with the appropriateness of even that comment.  

I'm not sure whether he did it as part of some deal or simply because he thought it was the right thing to do. Call me naive, but my gut feel is that it is the latter.

Still, given his self professed "loyalty" to the Clintons, it is a curious move.

In any event, Richardson will be spending the remainder of his public life looking over his shoulder. If Carville's reaction tells us anything, it tells us that the Clinton camp (and by Clinton Camp, I mean Bill, Hillary, Chelsea and 4 or 5 thousand of their closest political friends) feel betrayed by this, somewhat justifiably so, IMHO.

Why are you trying to parse Carville's disgusting, asinine quote.  I am trying not to get started on this subject.

I'm not parsing it. I think there is less there than folks have talked about. It is simply an expression of frustration.

I was only trying to explain that there was no deeper significance to the Judas allusion than we were coming up on the Easter holiday and it was probably in Carville's mind. Judas has often been used as a symbol of betrayal in literary and other settings outside a religious context.

I suspect had Carville just seen a movie or read a book about Jesse James, he would have compared Richardson to Robert Ford.

But, again, at the intersection of politics and religion, perhaps I don't fully appreciate the power of this particular allusion around this particular holiday.

If you follow Carville's reasoning in his analogy he's comparing the Clintons to Jesus Christ.  

Judas is to Christ what Richardson is to the Clintons.

Now THAT is a stretch.

This fits with the Clintons as narcissists, as many people believe they are. If you've even encountered a genuine narcissist you know they do rank themselves right up there with Jesus Christ.

Whenever I get those DCCC emails 'penned' by him or Paul Begala, I laugh out loud. As if getting email from a political clown like Carville is more likely to get me to open my wallet.

I want Carville and Matalin and that whole circus to just go away. These vestiges of '90s-era scream fests are not going to help anyone get elected -- and people like Carville and Penn and their entitlement and arrogance unfortunately epitomize the way Clinton's campaign has gone.

and read all of his books. Now instead of going after Republicans he's comparing Bill Richardson to Judas (and as a Roman Catholic, I will say that is a LOW freakin' blow!)

I agree with you 100% Teddy, it makes me very sad to see this.

"We are the people our parents warned us about"- Jimmy Buffett

I'm not too worked up about this one. Sure, he's a super delegate, but from the commentary I have seen, his opinion won't carry much weight in the upcoming primaries. Still, it is better as a strategic matter to have it than not have it.

I like Richardson. But, that said, his assertion that "I am very loyal to the Clintons" has a bit of a "Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play" quality about it to me. It seems a little disingenuous on his part to try to have it both ways.

I thought Carville's comments was a bit overwrought, and probably reflected his sense of frustration more than anything.

But it is also comical to me that all these people are getting the vapors because James Carville said something over the top.

Carville and big Bill's statements are an attempted sidetrack. It is becoming increasingly clear that the Clinton campaign cannot get Barack to stumble in responding to personal attacks and implied personal swipes. They are hoping to get Obama supporters and the Obama campaign to make that mistake.

Everyone knows that Obama will win more delegates in a contest that is all about delegates. The only chance the Clinton's have is to change the rules in the middle of the game by attacking Obama's character and judgment.  

Don't let them get away with it. They lost. The only real question left is just how much they will embarrass themselves and hurt the party before quitting.

Bill Richardson is one of the most accomplished and respected Democrats.  He followed his conscience and put that ahead of his personal friendship with the Clintons.

He is not a Judas or a turncoat.  

But the Clintons and their loyalists are angry and bitter at this endorsement.  From their point of view, it feels like a knife in the back from somebody whose support they expected. That expectation was not based on arrogant entitlement. Rather, they expected it based on long standing friendship and the fact that Richardson served in very prestigious positions in the Clinton administration.  

They are hurt is all.  And so they are striking back.  Most people can see it for what it is.  Personal frustration, nothing more and nothing less.

You revoked your prior support of Obama based on some things his supporters had said on various web blogs; comments Obama never approved and had no knowledge of.  

Now, when a close Clinton friend, supporter, and adviser says something that is absolutely reprehensible, something completely beyond the pale, you make excuses and talk about hurt feelings.

That seems like a double standard to me.

These comments are over the top.  People should do what's best for the country first and for the party second, not for the person whose husband who once gave you a job.  Folks that ask for everlasting loyalty need to grow up.

Why do I get the distinct feeling that they practice some sort of transactional politics?  Yes, politics is a tough business and all.  Is it so difficult for them to act with a little decency?

Barack Obama is........well it is late so I just want to say, what Bill Richardson said.

I'll just say this for myself:  Barack Obama has  a great, big heart.  Ultimately, that courageous and brilliant speech is going to do Obama a world of good.  If, however, a person that talented and dedicated doesn't win, it'll certainly be our loss.  If you want a better country and a better world, I urge you to get behind Barack Obama in any way you can.  He is doing his best and he deserves our support.