Bill Richardson Endorses Barack Obama

By: Lowell
Published On: 3/21/2008 6:02:51 AM

This is great news:

Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico plans to endorse Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic race for president Friday, an Obama campaign spokesperson told CNN.

In an e-mail to supporters, Richardson said Obama will be a "historic and a great President, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad."

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"My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver," Richardson wrote in his e-mail. "It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against John McCain in the fall."

Obviously, this is a major endorsement for Barack Obama, one of the few remaining endorsements that might actually make a difference (the others are people like John Edwards, Al Gore, and possibly a few others like Nancy Pelosi).  
Although I wish that Richardson's endorsement of Obama had come before Texas, I'm thrilled to have it now. As the candidate in the 2008 Democratic presidential field with the most foreign policy experience BY FAR, Richardson's endorsement of Obama directly counters the absurd charge that somehow Obama isn't "ready on Day 1."  Actually, come to think of it, Richardson also has the most domestic policy experience of any 2008 Democratic candidate, as a Congressman (for 14 years), as Secretary of Energy, and as Governor of New Mexico.  So, Richardson's endorsement of Barack Obama actually counters the "not ready on Day 1" silliness in both the foreign policy AND domestic policy arenas.

For whatever reason, Richardson's candidacy never really caught on, but now he can make a difference in helping to sway voters -- and superdelegates -- to Barack Obama.  Perhaps more importantly, this is excellent news for the Obama campaign that comes at the right time, after days of controversy (and "swiftboating," in the case of the McCain campaign) over Rev. Wright's offensive remarks. Hopefully, this endorsement of Barack Obama by Gov. Richardson will give the pundits and talking heads something else to talk about over the weekend.  We'll see.

P.S. Gov. Richardson's full endorsement statement is below (bolding added by me for emphasis)

During the last year, I have shared with you my vision and hopes for this nation as we look to repair the damage of the last seven years. And you have shared your support, your ideas and your encouragement to my campaign. We have been through a lot together and that is why I wanted to tell you that, after careful and thoughtful deliberation, I have made a decision to endorse Barack Obama for President.

We are blessed to have two great American leaders and great Democrats running for President. My affection and admiration for Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton will never waver. It is time, however, for Democrats to stop fighting amongst ourselves and to prepare for the tough fight we will face against John McCain in the fall. The 1990's were a decade of peace and prosperity because of the competent and enlightened leadership of the Clinton administration, but it is now time for a new generation of leadership to lead America forward. Barack Obama will be a historic and a great President, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad.

Earlier this week, Senator Barack Obama gave an historic speech. that addressed the issue of race with the eloquence, sincerity, and optimism we have come to expect of him. He inspired us by reminding us of the awesome potential residing in our own responsibility. He asked us to rise above our racially divided past, and to seize the opportunity to carry forward the work of many patriots of all races, who struggled and died to bring us together.

As a Hispanic, I was particularly touched by his words. I have been troubled by the demonization of immigrants--specifically Hispanics-- by too many in this country. Hate crimes against Hispanics are rising as a direct result and now, in tough economic times, people look for scapegoats and I fear that people will continue to exploit our racial differences--and place blame on others not like them . We all know the real culprit -- the disastrous economic policies of the Bush Administration!

Senator Obama has started a discussion in this country long overdue and rejects the politics of pitting race against race. He understands clearly that only by bringing people together, only by bridging our differences can we all succeed together as Americans.

His words are those of a courageous, thoughtful and inspiring leader, who understands that a house divided against itself cannot stand. And, after nearly eight years of George W. Bush, we desperately need such a leader.

To reverse the disastrous policies of the last seven years, rebuild our economy, address the housing and mortgage crisis, bring our troops home from Iraq and restore America's international standing, we need a President who can bring us together as a nation so we can confront our urgent challenges at home and abroad.

During the past year, I got to know Senator Obama as we campaigned against each other for the Presidency, and I felt a kinship with him because we both grew up between worlds, in a sense, living both abroad and here in America. In part because of these experiences, Barack and I share a deep sense of our nation's special responsibilities in the world.

So, once again, thank you for all you have done for me and my campaign. I wanted to make sure you understood my reasons for my endorsement of Senator Obama. I know that you, no matter what your choice, will do so with the best interests of this nation, in your heart.

Sincerely,

Bill Richardson


Comments



Superdelegates (Lowell - 3/21/2008 6:19:07 AM)
As Chris Bowers points out, "there isn't much voting left," so "the real question is whether Richardson brings any superdelegates with him." I agree.  Here is a list of superdelegates not yet committed.


From Virginia (legacyofmarshall - 3/21/2008 11:49:16 AM)
Is that at-large delegate from VA "Joe Johnson" like... Delegate Joe Johnson?  I sortof like the guy but umm... I didn't know he was capable (age) or willing (actually a Republican) to attend the Democratic National Convention.


Nope. (Randy Klear - 3/21/2008 4:39:26 PM)
This Joe Johnson lives in Chantilly, according to this Huffington Post writeup. He's a former executive director of the Rainbow PUSH Coalition organized by Jesse Jackson, and was a deputy campaign manager for Jackson's 1988 presidential bid. He also worked on Doug Wilder's 1989 run for governor and advised Mark Warner in 2001. Of late, he runs a number of companies involved with privately owned prisons, prisoner supervision, and homeland security contracting.


I have heard that the Obama campaign (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:36:44 PM)
doesn't want us to contact the super delegates.  And I have honored that.  However, I wonder if there's been any recent sense of what, if anything, that can be done here.


From Daily KOS (vadem2008 - 3/21/2008 9:26:45 AM)
Richardson's endorsement may be the beginning of a concerted push to pressure Clinton to acknowledge that she has fought a tough campaign but has come up short, that the race is over, and that it's time for her to recognize that our nominee for President will be Barack Obama.

I hope this is the case!



Why should Clinton Drop Out? (SW Democrat - 3/21/2008 11:42:29 AM)
If neither she nor Obama can mathematically obtain the requisite number of pledged delegates and they both must seek the support of Superdelegates to win, why should she drop out?  She probably will win PA by a large margin and this scandal with Obama's minister (or spiritual advisor - whatever that is) is far from over.  Despite being slightly behind in the current delegate count, she still has a real chance of winning.  Obama and his supporters should not underestimate the number of people - independents and some Democrats that are so offended by Rev. Wright that they will not, under any circumstance, support him.  His mass appeal to both sides has been seriously undermined.


It's not a "scandal" (Lowell - 3/21/2008 11:47:10 AM)
In what way is Barack Obama attending a black church a "scandal." Obama has denounced the offensive rhetoric used by Rev. Wright, what more would you like him to do?

Meanwhile, you might want to seriously think about this craziness before you start throwing stones about Obama and his church.  



Also, see (Lowell - 3/21/2008 11:51:27 AM)
here:

There's a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as "The "Fellowship," also known as The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

Whoops.



traction ahead (jsrutstein - 3/21/2008 12:11:55 PM)
Harper Collins, hardly a fly-by-night publisher, is publishing Sharlet's book.

The book has been blurbed by serious thinkers like Thomas Frank and Rick Perlstein.

Obama may never overcome the bias that lets McCain off the hook for his associations with white evangelical preachers who've made extreme statements, but, if Clinton is still in the race when Sharlet's book is published, I think there will be plenty of interest in Clinton's association with this secretive group.  Moreover, the power of the group ought to make anyone who isn't blinded by racist fear forget about Obama's church.



Jeff Sharlet is impeccable (AnonymousIsAWoman - 3/21/2008 12:58:50 PM)
He does his homework. He had an article in Rolling Stone about these shadowy religious groups and Sam Brownback's ties to them, which I used a while back when I did a blog post about Brownback's ties to Opus Dei and other theocratic groups.

I cross-posted that on Daily Kos and got absolutely pilloried as an anti-Catholic until Sharlett himself came to my defense on that site.

He's an expert on these things.



Should Clinton's religious beliefs matter politically? (jsrutstein - 3/21/2008 1:24:40 PM)
I've now read the Mother Jones article, and I can't wait until May to read Sharlet's book.  Sharlet depicts Clinton at college with a "conservative mind" and a "liberal heart."  Sharlet argues that, long before she met her husband and presumably saw a political benefit to triangulating and the DLC alternative to the traditional liberal Democratic base, Clinton had an affinity for conservative ideology that today manifests itself by her associating with Coe's group.  When an arch-old school feminist like Ehrenreich is finally writing about this in The Nation, I think more Democrats will begin to ask whether Clinton's religious beliefs ought to be an issue in her race against Obama, especially since Obama haters won't let go of the issue of his church, while Clinton won't explicitly address whether she's o.k. with her surrogates joining the attack.


This is news to you? (aznew - 3/21/2008 3:02:33 PM)
Clinton has admitted she was a "Goldwater Gal" in her youth. Her participation in this Bible Study group has been public knowledge for years.

Perhaps all she is demonstrating by joining such a group with prominent Conservative women is that spiritiual matters can cross political divides?

I mean, I have no idea. I have never met Hillary Clinton, so I don't profess to know her hidden motivations, assuming there even are any.



what may be news to me (jsrutstein - 3/21/2008 5:38:19 PM)
I knew she was a Goldwater gal.  I just assumed that when she went to college, she moved to the other side of the political spectrum.  She made that fairly controversial commencement speech.  She campaigned for McGovern.   She served on the Dem side as a staffer on a committee that led to Nixon's impeachment.  I assumed she moderated, because she was married to a Democratic politician from a southern state.  When Giuliani dropped out of the race against Clinton for the open Senate seat in NY, she never had to pander to hard to the right.  Even in this campaign, I think it's arguable that the reason she still refuses to admit that her Oct. 2002 vote to authorize the war was a mistake, is because, at least for voters who make the war a decisive issue, they wouldn't prefer her over Obama anyway.

What is news to me is that even if she were free to let her freak flag fly, she might not, and it may be due to religious beliefs she came to believe before she went to college.  



War to Armageddon (Bernie Quigley - 3/22/2008 6:40:57 AM)
The consequences for this are large. The dates seem to be forgotten but feelings for war long preceded the invasion in Appalachia and in the deeper South: It was to be a war to Armegeddon - as Pastor Hagee well puts it - to liberate the Middle East for the purpose of "jump starting" the Second Coming of Christ. Anyone who happened to turn to fundamentalist church radio around Poplar Camp and Clinch Mountain down to my neighborhood in North Carolina heard it growing for years. It was in fact, a millennialist religious delusion: an ambiguous fear that the world was going to end at  year 2,000.  


Some others now say (Teddy - 3/22/2008 11:53:26 AM)
the mighty end is to come in 2012. Other sects and philosophers seem to agree that is the date, although there are those who would rather regard "the end" more as a cycling into a new and different world reality. A rose by any other name...


There is no end. (Bernie Quigley - 3/22/2008 1:10:46 PM)
2012 is the Mayan calendar end, but this kind of speculation hooks up with the press primarily as a a fin de siecle fear at the end of a period and we are at the end of a big one: End of a 100 years (remember Y2K?), end of a 1000 years and in esoteric terms, the end of a 2000-Year Platonic Month, Pisces, the Christian/Muslim age (and the beginning of the new Platonic Month, Aquarius which began in 2001). Actually to the Mayan and to the Persian zodiac which we get in the astrology columns in the papers, there is no end, there is only a change. Thing is, the Strauss & Howe post-war saeculum likewise breaks between now and 2012, but in all of these it is a continuum where the old simply yields and the new arises. In the Strauss/Howe theory, the middle people - Reagan/Clinton - are history's forgotten ones and the Remembered Ones come at the end. The century awakens with the fourth generation which is wildly behind Barack and Michelle. Jim Webb is there as well and I think the timing of the publication of his new book suggests he senses he is part of the rising genre and will play a part (Vice President). It takes awhile for the new century to start; Bush is still an endgame of 20th century ideas and processes that began with Reagan/Thatcher. The 20th century didn't start till 1914.


FLy-by-Night-Publisher? (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:41:19 PM)
Indeed it is.  Murdoch's Newscorp owns it.


'tis hard to avoid Loathsome Rupert (jsrutstein - 3/22/2008 1:46:43 PM)
Is Fox News Channel the price we have to pay to get The Simpsons and this list of award winning literature?

http://www.harpercollins.com/B...



Clinton's Fellowship group (Rebecca - 3/21/2008 2:24:54 PM)
Yes, the shadowy "Fellowship" in Arlington, Virginia is run by Adolf Hitler admirer Douglas Coe. The Fellowship, a promoter of fascist causes and regimes around the world, was previously exposed by an article in Harper's but now it has gained the attention of the Huffington Post.

The Fellowship took over the Falls Church Episcopal church. This church along with the Truro Episcopal church in Fairfax City now pledge alliegance to an African Bishop who has written articles saying that homosexuals should be put to death.

The Fellowship is an alliance of the most right wing political and religious leaders. One purpose, among other things, seems to be to eliminate the moderate churches giving Christians the choice of their extreme views -or nothing. The fact that the Fellowship has hijacked these two churches in Northern Virginia is a source of great embarrassment to me and I hope to other decent people in the area.



I can't believe The Nation published this (aznew - 3/21/2008 2:58:02 PM)
Leave aside Sharlet's research for a minute. What exactly is new in this article that is not in Sharlet's Mother Jones piece.

Well, it is this:

There's a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

While the proposition that Clinton has remained silent is debatable, how does Erenreich know this is the reason she remained silent? I defy anyone to read the article and explain to me the source of this insight.

Remember, this assertion is the single thing that is new in this article. It is asserted as a fact. It is completely unsupported by a single fact.

Furthermore, I deny and resent Erenreich's statement that the 20-year relationship between Obama and his spiritual leader over a 20-year period, the Rev. Wright, is "unsavory." (Yes kids, read that last sentence of the first paragraph closely -- she is comparing two relationships that she calls "unsavory.").

Erenreich's work is usually impeccable. This is pretty poor work, if you ask me.

(As for Clinton's relationship with Coe, I read Sharlet's article, and it is not at all clear to me what this exact relationship is, except that she is in a Bible study group with which he is affiliated, much less whether it is unsavory or not. Nowhere does the article allege that Clinton is any way directly associated with the Family However, I refuse to engage in a debate over that -- it was wrong to bring it up with Obama, and it is equally wrong to raise it with Clinton, IMHO).



And if that doesn't work (Rutchy - 3/22/2008 8:42:36 AM)
you can always pull out Vince Foster, or one of other the Clinton conspiracies the right wing loves.


That's absurd, Rutchy n/t (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:45:40 PM)
You are comparing lunacy (Vince Foster conspiracy theories) with something completely different.  Hillary is not who many Dems think she is.


Whatever you want to call it, "scandal," "controversy," "mistake," it really doesn't matter (SW Democrat - 3/21/2008 4:07:43 PM)
the bottom line is that if his relationship to this spiritual advisor does not cost him the nomination, it will certainly cost him the presidency.  He will be so "swift boated" with this crap from that moron Wright that "real America" will be scared to death to even consider voting for him and pick who they believe to be the safe choice McCain.  No doubt the Beltway crowd minimizes this story, but to the majority of America, it is virtually devastating.  Why can't he come out and say that Wright was just someone that presided over a church I attended.  I gave little thought to the person that married me and my wife and to the person that baptised my children.  While I recognized that from time to time he made provocative statements, only recently did I fully appreciate the undeniable truth that he is an absolute radical, racist, charlaton and I hereby reject all that he stands for and I formally renounce him and his church. (Now that is a "denounciation" as you say).  Sure he would lose the few thousand brainwashed in Chicago that support the fool, but it is a small sacrifice to save his campaign with the rest of the country.


Obama has denounced Wright's (Lowell - 3/21/2008 4:11:23 PM)
statements. Apparently, nothing will satisfy you when it comes to Barack Obama.


your comment is really idiotic (teacherken - 3/21/2008 9:34:03 PM)
1) Obama was brought to an active Christianity by Wright
2) rejecting Wright the man would cause a huge backlash among many African-Americans
3) Wright has been an honored guest at a prayer breakfast at the Clinton White House, Sept 11, 1998, the day the Starr report was released
4) he is a nationally known and honored preacher
5) your comments about "a few thousand brainwashed" are insulting at a minimum, and on the edge of being racist
6) polling data from CBS totally disagrees with your assessment of the speech

Oh, and by the way, the presentation of Wright's remarks are totally out of context.  The chickens coming home to roost statement was his quoting an ambassador appointed by Reagan speaking on Fox news.  And the "god damn" remarks were presented totally out of the context in which they were said, and were far less offensive in that context than were the words of a PAt Robertson, a Rod Parsley or a John Hagee which might claim for example that Katrina was God's punishment on New Orleans for open gay pride.



In answer to your 6 points (SW Democrat - 3/22/2008 3:26:52 PM)
1) So fricken what
2) I give blacks more credit than you to oppose this overt racism and diatribe of a charlatan
3) Apparently he had folks fooled during that time but in a YouTube age, his lunacy can not be missed
4) Oh really? I doubt 98% of America had heard of him prior to this scandal
5) I don't mind insulting anyone that would follow Wright, but racism it is not.  As a matter of fact, I don't even know the racial composition of Wright's "flock"
6) I never commented on Obama's speech.  I was referring to Wright's numerous idiotic sermons that have been widely reported.

As far as your comments condemning Robertson, Parsley and Hagee, I certainly agree.  Wouldn't it be interesting if Atheism were the norm and Christianity or any other religon for that matter was the exception.



SW Democrat: misplaced outrage (j_wyatt - 3/22/2008 6:44:08 PM)
You have no comprehension how foolish you sound claiming to understand, let alone judge, the emotional psyche of African-Americans.  

As to your repeated spittle-flecked use of the word charlatan, let's grade charlatanism on a bell curve as to its affect.  On the one hand, Reverend Wright's parishioners numbering in the thousands apparently found the spiritual empowerment they were seeking in a church which, from the looks of it, successfully channeled deep emotions, including anger, into a vibrant and self-affirming Christianity.  And if Wright' church was, to a degree, Afrocentric in its emphasis, it's only fair to acknowledge that devout Baptists, traditional Roman Catholics, all Mormons, Wahabi Muslims and orthodox Jews are well known religious groups whose beliefs are founded on an exclusivity which effectively condemns -- admittedly simplifying sometimes complex beliefs here -- everyone else who doesn't choose to observe their particular creed to eternal hellfire.  

As to Reverend Wright, and your transparent attempts to conflate him to Senator Obama, have there been marauding groups of black United Church of Christ parishioners out killing or assaulting whites and/or trying to destroy the United States?  Yes or no?  Straight up, SW Democrat, yes or no?

In terms of measurable influence in the real, material world -- as in killing, assaulting and looting -- there is a much more dangerous charlatan loose in this land.  Fueled by ego and ambition, Senator Clinton mindlessly championed George Bush's preemptive invasion of Iraq, with the resultant slaughter of thousands of innocents, the deaths of 5000 American soldiers, the effective bankrupting of our treasury, all the while claiming to be a progressive Democrat who champions ordinary folks.  



talk about misplaced outrage (notwaltertejada - 3/22/2008 11:58:15 PM)
look senator clinton along with most democratic senators at the time voted for the authorization of the use of force in iraq based on the evidence they were given by the BUSH administration. the vote passed 77 to 23. to say she has "mindlessly championed" this war is so obnoxious.

btw- senator clinton is the one who wants to withdraw immediately from iraq.  



Yep, she's against the war ... (j_wyatt - 3/23/2008 12:41:25 AM)
just like she's against NAFTA.

She's for or against things solely on the basis of whatever is expedient at any given point in time as long as it's self-aggrandizing.

The only concrete conviction Senator Clinton hews to is her blind ambition.

She believes in nothing, except herself.

She will do anything -- suffer mortification and humiliation, triangulate her position, lie, create a fictional persona that flies in the face of empirical evidence, trash people, carpetbag, pretend she's a feminist, pretend she's married, pretend she's a populist, pretend she's a centrist, kiss up to the cancerous defense industry -- as long as it furthers her sociopathic pursuit of the White House.



almost right (jsrutstein - 3/23/2008 7:28:19 AM)
It's too late for Clinton to spin her Oct. 2002 vote in a positive way.  She and way too many other Members of Congress crossed their fingers and hoped that the war would be successful, short, and cheap.  It would have taken political courage for her and most of her colleagues who voted with her to vote the other way.  That she didn't step up at that time doesn't disqualify her for the nomination or for the Presidency.  Obama spoke out in Sept. 2002 against the war, and his prediction of what would happen was spot on.  It didn't take as much courage for him to do that as it would have for most sitting Senators, including Clinton, but it counts for something.  In terms of their withdrawal plans, there really isn't much difference between Clinton and Obama.  I think the only reason Clinton doesn't admit that her Oct. 2002 vote was a mistake is because to do so at this point wouldn't win her any votes for the nomination and might her lose a lot of votes for the nomination if such a flip flop was seen as desperate.


the differences are worth pointing out (notwaltertejada - 3/23/2008 12:46:18 PM)
clinton wants to withdraw and be done with this thing in 30 days. obama wants to "gradually" withdraw troops over 2 months. seems like he is trying to have it both ways with the whole gradual thing even though that is a joke.
why not just use clinton's strategy and get this over with?


There is no scandal. n/t (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:37:56 PM)


Timeout... (sndeak - 3/21/2008 11:52:28 AM)
Despite being slightly behind in the current delegate count, she still has a real chance of winning.

Without winning over 63% in every remaining state she cannot catch him in delegates, states or popular vote.



Agreed (DanG - 3/21/2008 2:06:58 PM)
Only the tools in her camp really believe she'll win the pledged delegate count.  She has to win 63% in every state.  She'll likely LOSE NC, Oregon, SD, and Monatana.  Which means that number is actually much higher in states she can win.  She won't even get 63% in PA, where she is DOMINATING.  She can't win without the superdelgates flipping it all around, which would kill the Democratic Party.


And what I'm also finding funny, SW Democrat (DanG - 3/21/2008 2:35:47 PM)
Is that instead of rejecting this obvious case of swiftboating as Hillary herself has (though not as enthusiastically as I'd her to), her supporters have tried to use this right-wing hit job to their advantage.  But then again, it kind of sums up the Mark Penn motto, "Win at all costs."  


What this tells me (Ron1 - 3/21/2008 3:03:04 PM)
You wrote:

Obama and his supporters should not underestimate the number of people - independents and some Democrats that are so offended by Rev. Wright that they will not, under any circumstance, support him.  His mass appeal to both sides has been seriously undermined.

This tells me that there was almost never any chance that you were going to vote for Obama, Wright controversy or no Wright controversy. The right wing noise and smear machine would have found some piece of nonsense for you to be sufficiently 'outraged' about, and you would have used that for your 'justification' to vote for McCain.

Never mind that McCain has actively sought out and continues to actively ask for the support of bigots like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and 'Pastor' Agee, men who have said that America deserved 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina because of homosexuals and abortionists, and one of whom has called the Catholic Church the 'Great Whore' of Revelation.

Never mind that McCain would keep American in Iraq in perpetuity (assuming the Dems continue to not challenge our 'unitary executive'), nor that he would probably start a war with Iran and/or Syria, nor that he's likely to continue the fiscal policies of the Bush regime that are bankrupting this country.

Never mind all that -- you were sufficiently outraged by some heated remarks by a preacher in the candidate's community that you would not vote for him. This says a lot more about you and your issues than it does about anything else. This says to me that you were never going to be comfortable or likely to vote for any black person for the Presidency, but sadly I do agree with you that there is a significant portion of the population that may think like you. I continue to hope and believe that this proportion can be overcome.

You obviously did not listen to the man's speech, or, if you did, you were not able to understand what he spoke, meaning you were unable to insert yourself into his shoes and the shoes of blacks all around this country. I am sure you will be outraged by my assertions, and will spout that you would happily vote for some theoretical black person that didn't have such baggage. And to that I say, your words here bespeak an inability to hold the actual black candidate and the white candidates to the same standards. And that, to me, shows me where you are coming from.  



Let's grow up and read my post again (SW Democrat - 3/21/2008 4:43:28 PM)
Sometimes it may help you to understand a post if you slowly read out loud.  To suggest that I am racist is absurd and apparently about as sophisticated a response as you can muster.  Why not argue that the Wright story will not dramatically affect Obama's campaign and give me the reasons.  Calling me racist simply suggests that you lack the intelligence to respond to a different opinion.  I will certainly support Obama if he is the nominee.  In fact I like him very much.  My point is that he had better do more than he has done so far to distance himself from Wright or he is history.  If by simply stating an opinion that disagrees with the majority of this board justifies being called a racist, then you can f.o.  Understand that?


I NEVER called you racist (Ron1 - 3/22/2008 1:39:55 AM)
But that's what you read into my remarks on your original posting.

You wrote:

Obama and his supporters should not underestimate the number of people - independents and some Democrats that are so offended by Rev. Wright that they will not, under any circumstance, support him.  His mass appeal to both sides has been seriously undermined.

I'll stipulate that you did not in fact say that you were one of such people. As such, I apologize for suggesting that you were one such person.

That being said, I will still emphatically say that the way you presented the 'facts' of the situation bespeaks an inability on your part to hear what Barack said in his speech on race/Wright. [However, I will surely not argue that the way that the establishment media covers these made up issues will not affect his ability to try and connect with us in hopes of changing the parameters of our national conversation.]

He absolutely denounced all of the most inflammatory statements that his preacher made, just as he was made to properly prostrate himself and deny all of Farrakhan's statements -- even though he had never asked for Farrakhan's blessing. My original point stands firm -- this black man is forced to deal with all kind of nonsense while all kinds of  bigots are allowed to encircle and ally themselves with Senator McCain, with not a crossword asked.

It is worth asking, why are black candidates held to different standards than white candidates?

Maybe you can answer me that about SW Va.



You may have a point about Obama being held to a higher standard (SW Democrat - 3/22/2008 3:31:22 PM)
with respect to having to disassociate himself from certain people like Wright and Farrakhan.

But what about the much greater scrutiny and media bias shown towards Hillary and in favor of Obama during the first year of these races.  It was so overwhelming and obvious that even Saturday Night Live made fun of it.  Only now with these videos of the charlatan Wright has any criticism been directed towards Obama, despite Barack's valiant efforts to address the issue of race in his historical speech.



SW Democrat ... (j_wyatt - 3/21/2008 3:58:30 PM)
here represents that lump of the American electorate incapable of dealing with uncomfortable truth.  

Most all of what Reverend Wright said is manifestly true, probably true or has a lot of truth to it.

Obama and his supporters should not underestimate the number of people - independents and some Democrats that are so offended by Rev. Wright that they will not, under any circumstance, support him.
 

Speaking of offensive, those people have had their say:  they supported the worst president in our history in 2000 and 2004.  Now they can get out of the way.

And if the "some Democrats" you're referring to include yourself, SW Democrat, it's no wonder that you're a Clinton supporter.  A serious suspension of disbelief seems to be a requirement to accept the fiction-based persona she has been attempting to sell.    



So which is it (SW Democrat - 3/21/2008 4:47:33 PM)
The statement that African Americans were deliberately exposed to the AIDS virus by the government - is that statement manifestly true, probably true or has a lot of truth to it?  I think it is the diatribe of a mentally ill charlatan.  Surely you don't believe that!  


It is this. (j_wyatt - 3/21/2008 5:25:07 PM)
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for "bad blood," their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all.

The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis-which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. "As I see it," one of the doctors involved explained, "we have no further interest in these patients until they die."

http://www.infoplease.com/spot...



Yes (Rebecca - 3/21/2008 9:57:53 PM)
The Bush administration sends AIDS money to be doled out only if clinics promise to teach that the only acceptable birth control is abstinence. There you have it. In fact they have drastically reduced the number of available condoms in countries where AIDS is prevalent. Sounds systematic to me. Only those who wish not to see can deny the outcome of such policies.


Polls say otherwise n/t (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:40:08 PM)


You might want to read (Lowell - 3/21/2008 4:28:33 PM)
The Politico if you really think Hillary still has a chance:

Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party's most reliable constituency.

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote - which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle - and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.

People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.

As it happens, many people inside Clinton's campaign live right here on Earth. One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives.

In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe.



Exactly, Lowell... (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:47:53 PM)
There is no chance whatsoever that she can win this, unless she takes it away from Obama by some other means.


No doubt it's a concerted effort, (LindainSFNM - 3/21/2008 1:34:12 PM)
just like he did in 2004 when he told Governor Dean to get out of the race and unite behind Kerry.  Who believed the stories then that Richardson himself wanted to run for President in 08.  Time has a funny way of proving.  But why do so many still ignore reality?

This is Richardson's only chance of getting back to DC where he wants to be.  He blew his chance with Hillary when he made his deal with Obama in Iowa.  He actually thought he could play both sides.  Oops.



Mark Penn: It Doesn't Count (Chris Guy - 3/21/2008 2:06:31 PM)
"The time that he could have been effective has long since passed," he continued, "I don't think it is a significant endorsement in this environment."


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I notice that (DanG - 3/21/2008 7:08:20 PM)
Clinton supporters may argue the above statements, but nobody seems to be upset over my would-be glee at the death of Mark Penn.  Perhaps even Clinton supporters agree with me on this one?


Hey, DanG (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:48:47 PM)
That's going more than a bit far, don't ya think?  Let's not stoop to their level.


May be a bit far (DanG - 3/22/2008 2:10:51 PM)
But totally the truth.  I feel for Mark Penn the same thing I felt for Dick Wad(hams).


MURTHA ENDORSES CLINTON (notwaltertejada - 3/21/2008 10:14:19 PM)
in Pennsylvania...a state which has yet to vote.


newsflash (DanG - 3/22/2008 2:55:05 AM)
Clinton is going to win PA big REGARDLESS.  And it STILL won't be enough to secure her the nomination:

http://www.politico.com/news/s...

Shame, nwt.  Your days of being a total and utter tool are numbered.



With a beard (Will Write For Food - 3/21/2008 11:52:45 PM)
Richardson looks just like Joe Mantegna; come to think of it, I've never seen Richardson and Mantegna at the same time in the same place before ... hmm


The Media and Religious Hypocrisy (Scott Surovell - 3/22/2008 4:05:43 AM)
The Republican Party has been in bed and continued to be in bed with the likes of Robertson, Fallwell, Dobson & Hagee and I don't hear anyone saying that's going to cost them the Presidency.

John McCain accepted the endorsement of and refused to repudiate a guy who said Katrina happened becaues of a gay rights parade.

Why do the Republicans get a pass on hanging out with right wing ministers while Obama gets pummeled with hanging out with one who espouses left-wing views?

Where's the consistency?  

I don't nececessarily agree with what the guy says, but he GOP has the Democratic Party running around with its tail between its legs apologizing for everything.  No wonder voters don't think we stand for anything.  



pulling together (jsrutstein - 3/22/2008 7:44:52 AM)
At his blog, I was surprised to find my state Senator, Chap Petersen, joined the Obama critics.  Chap's one of the good guys.  All I can figure is that he isn't seeing how this type of infighting really hurts the party as a whole.  There may be times when it's necessary to criticize our own, even publicly.  This isn't one of them.


Yes, but (Rebecca - 3/22/2008 11:20:13 AM)
Yes, but remember Chap attends the Truro church in Fairfax. This church has been taken over by the right wing group, the Fellowship. I think Chap should explain more about why he sticks with this church. Maybe then he can throw stones at Obama.


"No wonder (Teddy - 3/22/2008 12:18:49 PM)
voters don't think we stand for anything." How true. The craven whining and unending spineless surrender of the national Democratic leadership was a disappointing surprise to me when I first became a Democrat.

I believe their attitude (not even upright enough to be termed a "stance") is due to two factors:

1) the power of the mass media which, far from being "liberal," is in fact a propaganda arm of the Republican Party, or, rather of the Super Elite which basically controls the Republican Party and which regards that Party as their favorite political child; the Democratic leadership has been so thoroughly whipped and savaged by that media they self-censor and have shaking fits when threatened with another attack, and there is no countervailing Democratic media to buffer them.

2) The Super Elite also has most of the Democrats under their thumb as well, in one way or another, and most of the Democratic Party leadership has in fact bought into the prevailing philosophy as well (the DLC, for example), so, between intellectual slavery and moral cowardice, Democratic leaders can never think or move out of the box for an effective response.



Gore and Edwards (vadem2008 - 3/22/2008 8:17:53 AM)
I read at Politico that Gore and Edwards are playing the role of the party "elders" and remaining out of endorsing.  I think that as the party "elders" it would benefit the party for them to endorse Obama.  This would put an end to the vitriolic rhetoric at least on the part of the dems. We need to get behind Obama big time!


Couldn't agree more...vadem2008 (KathyinBlacksburg - 3/22/2008 12:52:59 PM)
They could bring the Clinton divisiveness to an end if they gathered a group of the so-called "elders," and pressured Bill and Hillary to knock it off.

I cannot imagine why they are delaying.  And furthermore, every day that they do is not just disappointing, but also disillusioning.  I really admire both of them (have written so many times).  But their silence during the unbelievable attacks on Obama's patriotism, ability, and leadership strength ought to be repudiated.



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oh but they will (notwaltertejada - 3/23/2008 12:40:13 PM)
they will try and distance obama from this ridiculous guy. the fact is obama has gone to his church for 20 years and has a close personal relationship with him. i mean how can obama actually take him seriously!? the guy is completely rabid.
obama knew full well what this guy is about at obviously michelle obama did to and they continued to eat up wright's hate speech. at least he gained some experience as a community organizer with these people. boy BYE


Interesting - I keep seeing the same phrase about (Catzmaw - 3/24/2008 10:07:18 AM)
"exposing his children" sprinkled all over the WaPo and other articles about this.  It's almost the same language in each one of those comments, some of them actually copied and transferred whole from one story to the other.  Looks like you've got your own little meme going on.  You've been saying the same thing for days.  See if you can come up with something new.