Now The Truth Comes Out About Barack's Background

By: TheGreenMiles
Published On: 3/16/2008 9:19:42 PM

Turns out he was Irish all along.

No, really! Well, a little bit. His great-great-great-grandfather was born in Ireland before coming to America in 1850. 

Taking a look at the campaign websites, who knew St. Patrick's Day would be a metaphor for the entire race?

Obama's St. Patrick's Day outreach? A killer t-shirt. I'm completely bitter I didn't see it until tonight, too late to get one for St. Patrick's Day.

Clinton's St. Patrick's Day outreach? A 1,312 word treatise on her work on the Northern Ireland peace process. Rich with substance, but ... yawn.



Comments



Campaign... Too... Long... (code - 3/16/2008 9:59:24 PM)
Perhaps it's the story of the campaign, but this T-Shirt is actually an entire year old. The logo was created last St. Patty's Day (2007). Yes, the campaign for the Dem nomination has really been going on for over a year.

Bless the Obama campaign staff. They've been working their arses off for 13 months now.



Now if only (relawson - 3/17/2008 11:17:10 AM)
Karl Rove and the Republican machine can find that Irish mosque he must have attended.


COMMENT HIDDEN (notwaltertejada - 3/17/2008 3:40:25 PM)


Don't you mean Pres. Clinton? (Alicia - 3/17/2008 3:45:36 PM)
I thought President Clinton helped accomplish a working peace in Northern Ireland?

If she gets the "positive by association" then she should also get the "negative by association"  -- you can't just have it one way.

Better bet:  Just stick with pros clearly related to things Hillary actually did - not what Bill or "the clintons" did.  It just makes it seem forced and irrelevant and detracts from her many accomplishments.



yes pres. clinton. hillary is his wife. (notwaltertejada - 3/17/2008 7:40:46 PM)
to imply that hillary clinton played no role in his administration is nonsense. yes, there may have been some negative things that came from the clinton administration. i don't know about some of the other people on this blog but i am a democrat. as a democrat i was overall very happy with president clinton and think he made a very good one. this kind of issue is one where senator clinton gained a lot of experience from being married to the president so it is relevant.


Are you kidding? (DanG - 3/17/2008 7:49:19 PM)
Pres. Clinton's own foreign policy advisors have refuted your statement!  She did NOT sit in on foreign policy meetings, she did NOT make big foreign policy decisions.  She did NOT have any say on the Northern Ireland agreements.

The one thing that Hillary played a major role in was Health Care, and we all know how that ended up.



nope im serious. (notwaltertejada - 3/17/2008 8:05:57 PM)
she may not have been sitting in on the foreign policy meetings or making the big decisions. that does not mean that she was oblivious to what was going on around her. i'm sure she traveled to northern ireland, probably even for the belfast agreement. do you seriously believe she gained no valuable experience from being married to the president that had such a large role in the peace process there?


I call BS (DanG - 3/17/2008 4:23:54 PM)
Hillary Clinton went over to Northern Ireland with Sheryl Crow and Sinbad.  BILL Clinton did all the work.  Hillary Clinton just was along for the ride.

Stop giving Hillary credit for things Bill did.



She was puffing up her resume, (aznew - 3/17/2008 5:17:16 PM)
but that seems par for the course in any political campaign.

So, if you want to call BS on her, you are probably right. But if we applied that standard to every candidate and every campaign claim, all we would do during campaigns is run around yelling "bullshit" at everything an opponent says. (Uh...., oh, nevermind, I have a point to make.)

But to completely discount Hillary Clinton's experience as First Lady as meaningless, as "just along for the ride,"  is quite unfair.

The fact is, regardless of what she personally did, she had a unique opportunity to see how this all works from a  front row seat. To know how it feels to be in the pressure-cooker. To see and experience, first-hand, the management of crises and the way people conduct themselves in these settings, whether a peace negotiation in Ireland, a meeting with legislative leaders in the White House or responding to a scandal.

You can fairly debate how much weight to give that experience, but to deny that it exists in contrary to common experience.

Observing and experiencing from the inside are valuable forms of experience.



I don't mean "along for the ride" on everything (DanG - 3/17/2008 7:50:00 PM)
I meant on this specific issue.


I stand corrected (aznew - 3/17/2008 7:59:04 PM)
You were just referring to Ireland.

But I stand behind my overall point, which is basically the same one made by notwalt...., above, and that is that having been First Lady for 8 years is unique, relevant experience to being president.

It doesn't mean that it qualifies every First Lady to be president, any more that Obama's experience as a state legislator means that every state legislator's experience qualifies them to be president.

But Sen. Clinton's detractors too easily dismiss this experience as having no relevance whatsoever.

Frankly, seems illogical to me that somehow Obama's years as a community organizer and state Senator in illinois are relevant to being President, but eight years spent in the White House in a variety of capacities, many of which related to strategic decisions, is derided.