Dave Albo: "You can't fight the Internet"

By: Lowell
Published On: 3/8/2008 9:05:47 AM

In this morning's Washington Post, reporter Tim Craig explains how the abuser fees rose and fell, ending their brief, ignominious life today, as the General Assembly votes today (most likely) to repeal "what many legislators have said is one of the state's biggest public policy failures in years."  The article overall is highly flawed, but we'll get to that in a minute.  First, here's the Most Stupidest Quote of the Day:

"We lost the PR battle," said Del. David B. Albo (R-Fairfax), a main supporter of the fees. "You can't fight the Internet."

You "can't fight the internet?"  Think about that for a minute.  According to Wikipedia, the internet is "a worldwide, publicly accessible series of interconnected computer networks that transmit data by packet switching using the standard Internet Protocol (IP)."  Or, as Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) explained, it's "a series of tubes," but "not a big truck."  Is that what Dave Albo believes you can't fight?  Seriously, though, saying you "can't fight the internet" is like saying "you can't fight the radio" (or TV, or newspapers, or whatever).  The comment demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of what the internet is, how it works, and why Dave Albo lost his battle over the abuser fees.  A few points:

1. On the internet, there are hundreds of millions (billions?) of websites.  Some of those websites are the hideous, dastardly things known as "blogs" (Dave Albo trembles in terror at the mere mention of the word).

2. A small percentage of those blogs  are political in nature, and a miniscule proportion of those focus on Virginia politics.  We're talking maybe 0.00000001% of the internet, and I probably missed a few zeroes, that are political blogs focusing on Virginia.  

3. Of those, only a few -- NLS, RK, and a petition started by Bryan Ault -- took up the cause last summer against the abuser fees.  The bottom line, when Dave Albo says "you can't fight the internet," let's be clear -- he's referring to two blogs out of hundreds of millions (neither of which are named by Tim Craig in his story), plus a petition started by "an Alexandria man" (also unnamed by Tim Craig).
4. At any time, given that the internet is open to creation of new blogs, or posting on existing blogs, Dave Albo and his allies who favored the abuser fees could have gone out on the "series of tubes" and made their case for the brilliance of their idea.  Because ye, that's another aspect of the internet that Dave Albo apparently doesn't understand -- it's democratic, small "d," where one person's ideas and facts are inevitably critiqued and challenged by many other people with their own ideas and facts.  The question is, if Albo's ideas were so brilliant and facts so strong, why didn't he and his allies make their case out on the internet (or on TV, radio, print media, or anywhere else for that matter)?  Perhaps it's not that "you can't fight the internet," perhaps it's that "you can't fight the public when it is angry at your idiotic idea that will adversely affect their day-to-day lives?"  But no, don't blame yourself for coming up with idiotic legislation, blame "the internet" -- that "worldwide, publicly accessible series of interconnected computer networks" -- for your defeat.  Brilliant as always, Del. Albo. You really get it! (hint: that was snark, something we often use on the internet).

5. If you "can't fight the internet," then why is it that we haven't defeated Dominion Power yet?  Why is it that we weren't able to get Leslie Byrne and Creigh Deeds elected in 2005? Why is it that Barack Obama's not the nominee yet?  Why is it that John Kerry wasn't elected president in 2004?  Why is it that Congress hasn't imposed a "cap and trade" system for carbon yet?  Why is it that we still have the abysmal FISA law?  Why is it that Bush and Cheney are still getting away with torturing people in our name?  Why is it...etc., etc.  

Now, just a couple of brief thoughts on Tim Craig's article.  First, I find it a bit odd that, in telling the story of the demise of the abuser fees, no specific mention is made of the two blogs -- NLS and RK -- which led the charge against them.  

Second, I find it strange that there's no mention is made of the actual NAME of the "Alexandria man," Bryan Ault, who started the petition that quickly -- with a big push from the bloggers -- gathered 170,000 signatures against Dave Albo's brilliant idea.  

Third, Craig refers to some blogs printing "inaccurate but damaging information, but does not mention what was "inaccurate."  I'd love to be enlightened; as far as I can tell, the information on the anti-abuser-fees blogs (and Ault's petition) was highly accurate, the best evidence for this being that Albo et al. never really refuted it, except to foam at the mouth about the evil blogs.

Finally, there's no recognition that Dave Albo et al. could have "fought the internet" (sic) if they had gone out there and made their case.  Of course, that would have presumed that they actually had a case.  The problem for them, in short, wasn't the "internet," it was their own deeply flawed legislation, which the public hated, and which they were utterly incapable of defending on the dastardly "internet" or anywhere else.  It's a lot easier to point fingers at things you don't understand than to look in the mirror, I guess.


Comments



Correction from White House Grammar Department (connie - 3/8/2008 9:34:03 AM)
His comment should have read:

"You can't fight the internets"...  



Or, as Sen. Stevens might say... (Lowell - 3/8/2008 9:38:29 AM)
..."you can't fight a series of tubes."


What (leftofcenter - 3/8/2008 10:02:56 AM)
a tool Albo is.
Idiot.


Greatest. Quote. Ever. (Eric - 3/8/2008 10:18:12 AM)
Ok, maybe not that good, but I love it.  "You can't fight the internet".  The quote by itself is great, made even better in the context that Albo publicly admitted he was a pathetic leader who couldn't rally support for his own bill and became hopeless road kill flattened under the wheels of grassroots organizations.

I think we'll be using this quote more in the future.  A lot more.



Sounds like a t-shirt waiting to happen (Lowell - 3/8/2008 10:20:20 AM)
:)


"You can't find the internet" (Terry85 - 3/8/2008 10:18:52 AM)
Nice.  This needs to be on a t-shirt or something.


By the way, Del. Albo... (Lowell - 3/8/2008 10:22:22 AM)
...if it's true that you really can't fight the internet, you might as well announce right now that you're not running for reelection, because I can guarantee you that the "tubes" will be strongly behind Greg Werkheiser and against you next year.


Let's not forget the other losers here. (jsrutstein - 3/8/2008 11:51:32 AM)
Tim Craig and the WaPo.  The old cliche is one shouldn't pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel.  Albo probably only meant to update this cliche, but the WaPo, and the msm in general, are learning that, via these cheap, massively decentralized tubes, it's not a fight at all.  The recent award given to Josh Marshall for talkingpointsmemo.com is evidence of the future of journalism.  May the WaPo and Albo with their outdated approaches fade quickly and quietly.


tube tied (jsrutstein - 3/8/2008 11:57:39 AM)
sorry to reply to my own comment, but is anyone else having trouble connecting with talkingpointsmemo.com?  I have a mac and last night and again this morning, when I go there, the front page partially loads and then I just get the spinning color wheel, and have to do a force quit.  Could it be a typepad thing?  I had the same trouble with a side that had "typepad" as part of the URL.  I'm also having the same trouble with TAPPED.  Unfortunately, I'm not much more sophisticated about these tubes than Sen. Stevens.


I just got onto TPM (Lowell - 3/8/2008 12:43:47 PM)
no problem.


Eh. (Silence Dogood - 3/8/2008 2:23:14 PM)
Let's not forget for instance that it was the Washington Post that uncovered the abysmal state of our healthcare for wounded veterans at Walter Reed.  The Washington Post has done some great work; there's no need to denigrade that in the name of self-importance.


the writing's on the cyberwall (jsrutstein - 3/8/2008 2:55:05 PM)
Actually, salon.com reported on the Walter Reed controversy two years before the WaPo.

http://archive.salon.com/news/...

I didn't mean to denigrate the good work of various reporters at various times at the WaPo and other msm outlets.  And it would be stupid to overlook the historical importance of the press.  Rather, I meant to point out that equally good work can and is increasingly being done on the web.

When the msm deliberately omits mention of particular websites, bloggers, and commenters, it is implicitly saying that web reporting isn't really journalism.  This is not only silly, but ultimately futile.  



Sadly, the attitude of the Washington Post (Lowell - 3/8/2008 5:12:20 PM)
appears to be overtly hostile towards the blogs.  Note that we always link to them, but they almost never link to us, even when we have exclusive interviews, exclusive reports on events, and a wide variety of other scoops?  Fascinating.


Whats lost in all this fun (Alter of Freedom - 3/8/2008 12:13:47 PM)
is that Albo as ridiculous as it sounds may be on to something. The net effect of the blogosphere is shaping the political environment. What may have started as some what of an interest driven market is becoming an influencial movement. I know RK released a week or so ago some data about its "hits" to the site and its impressive enough to get attention relative to other Virginia "blogs" and nationally for that matter. RK certainly draws more in state attention as it meets the need and interest of those of us who are engaged or interested in Virginia politics, but for me find it more informative and substantitive per my interest than say Daily Kos which off course draws a national audience. This is not a comparison of course but merely the feeling that Virginians will get more in touch with Virginia but staying "local" in the pretense that all politics is local.
Blogs are increasing gaining powers that maybe the creators had intended, such as the association some have with PACS and the influence they have to raise not only support of conscience but money as well.
In terms of Albo if you look at blogs and internet as somehow a political gun than maybe he ought just stop providing them with ammunition to fire. If you narrow the his internet viewpoint to Virginia and then to the Virginia blogosphere and then to those associated with politics the role of NLS and RK certainly represent significant draws when put in that context but not say when taken versus the whole internet.
And by the way if the blogs were not on to something why I wonder is it now we see countless politcians now with their own blogs to reach constituents. I venture to say that if we compared those numbers today with say 2000 there would be monumental increases. Why in Virginia?
Because the blogosphere (Virginia) may have been the first ever in the history of America to significantly influence the outcome of a Congressional election in the campaign of Jim Webb.
Like it or not, that campaign (the blog effect) has become a model in other elections since and that speaks volumes and that is what Albo and other politcians fear most---the loss on control.


Attacking (Teddy - 3/8/2008 1:02:13 PM)
"the Internet" as Albo and some other conservative politicians have done has another aspect: laying the groundwork to erect another Republican attack scam on another damnable "liberal media."  

It is in one way an opening gun in what will be (or is already) a Republican effort to 1) devalue anything the Republicans dislike that comes off the Internet blogs, enabling them automatically to dismiss it to their brainwashed followers, and 2) eventually stifle and control freedom of speech on the Internet.  

How the Republicans must envy the Chinese Communist leaders, who conned Google and others into censoring internet communications across China.  How we ourselves see Bush con AT&T and others in the US allow the American unitary executive President illegally to use warrantless wiretaps and searches of electronic communications under the excuse of patriotically supporting the war on terror---- when, in fact, we have no way of knowing what additional political uses were made of the information so sieved from their data mining, and never will know if, as Bush demands, AT&T et al are granted retroactive immunity.

Delegate Albo's whining goes far beyond his own dismay over the abuser fees' demise.



Oh I would loooove... (Terry85 - 3/8/2008 1:27:14 PM)
to see Republicans start attacking bloggers as another arm of the fabricated liberal media.  I swear it's like they're suffering from schizophrenia the way they think every one is out to get them.  The success of liberal, progressive or otherwise "Dem supporting" blogs has more to do with the high education levels of Democratic voters more so than anything else, IMO at least.


It's also worth noting (Silence Dogood - 3/8/2008 2:19:42 PM)
You didn't just lose the PR battle on the transportation plan, Dave, you also lost the Supreme Court battle.  The internets would like to remind you that "You can't fight teh Supreme Courtz!!1"


Sorry to disrupt this echo chamber, but.... (robgop - 3/9/2008 12:31:00 AM)
I believe that what Del. Albo was referring to was the gross misrepresentation of  Abuser Fees by blogs such as RK. Your 6/21/07 post entitled "The Albo-Rust '3,550 Traffic Ticket'" stated:

"$3,550 speeding ticket, the purpose of which is not to deter crime but to raise revenue!" - RK 6/21/07

The fact that these fines would have applied only to individuals convicted of felonies --killing someone while driving recklessly or a third offense DWI--was left out of the post.

I understand this may have been a misunderstanding of the bill, but other less well-intentioned blogs took these readings as gospel and distorted the truth.

Just my thoughts......



Totally Incorrect (Scott Surovell - 3/9/2008 11:14:05 AM)
Rob - Albo's NEW bill applies to felonies and DWI - including misdemeanor DWIs.

The original abuser fee bill that passed applied to all traffic offenses that constituted misdemeanors.  This included things like displaying an obscene image on your car (plastic testicles?) to minor forms of Reckless Driving, all DWI's, Driving on a Suspended, Driving Without a Valid Operator's License, etc.