"Republicans hope Hillary wins state"

By: Lowell
Published On: 2/8/2008 8:51:24 AM

What more do you need to know than that Republicans hope Hillary wins state, that ultra-right-wing Del. Jeff Frederick is "rooting for her?"  How about that Bill Bolling, Bob McDonnell and Ken Cuccinelli are all salivating over the prospect of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee for president this year?  Or that "Rush Limbaugh jokingly told listeners yesterday he was considering raising money for Mrs. Clinton?"  Or that Jim Gilmore's strategy is "to defeat a Clinton-Warner ticket?"  How about that former Edwards (and Warner and Webb) top strategist Dave "Mudcat" Saunders says point blank that "Hillary Clinton cannot win in Virginia in a general election?"

I don't need to know anymore. How about you?


Comments



Well, if the *Washington Times* said it, it must be true. (Johnny Longtorso - 2/8/2008 9:18:24 AM)


Huh? (Lowell - 2/8/2008 9:19:22 AM)
You're saying that these quotes by Frederick, Bolling, Gilmore, McDonnell, and Saunders are all fabricated?


No, I'm saying that they're not exactly unbiased. (Johnny Longtorso - 2/8/2008 9:27:43 AM)
You could find plenty of quotes from Democrats who want Hillary to be the nominee. So what?


bias (West Ailsworth - 2/8/2008 9:41:34 AM)
Of course they are biased.  That's the whole point.  Repubs want Hillary as the nominee because she energizes the party.  If you want to unite a Republican party that is divided over John McCain, vote for Hillary.


You just proved the point I was making. (Lowell - 2/8/2008 9:57:09 AM)
Thank you! :)


I am from MD but thrilled to find this place (aiko - 2/8/2008 9:40:44 AM)
I am desperate for a pro-Obama blog just to make it through the next five days.

I know everyone hates Noonan but I agree with her on the Clintons. The GOP would prefer a known quantity.

PEGGY NOONAN's Wall Street Journal column:

-"Mrs. Clinton is losing this thing. It's not one big primary, it's a rolling loss, a daily one, an inch-by-inch deflation. The trends and indices are not in her favor. She is having trouble raising big money, she's funding her campaign with her own wealth, her moral standing within her own party and among her own followers has been dragged down, and the legacy of Clintonism tarnished by what Bill Clinton did in South Carolina. Unfavorable primaries lie ahead. ... Political professionals are leery of saying, publicly, that she is losing, because they said it before New Hampshire and turned out to be wrong. Some of them signaled their personal weariness with Clintonism at that time, and fear now, as they report, to look as if they are carrying an agenda. One part of the Clinton mystique maintains: Deep down journalists think she's a political Rasputin who will not be dispatched. Prince Yusupov served him cupcakes laced with cyanide, emptied a revolver, clubbed him, tied him up and threw him in a frozen river. When he floated to the surface they found he'd tried to claw his way from under the ice. That is how reporters see Hillary."

-"Mrs. Clinton would be easier for Republicans. With her cavalcade of scandals, they'd be delighted to go at her. They'd get medals for it. Consultants would get rich on it. The Democrats have it exactly wrong. Hillary is the easier candidate, Mr. Obama the tougher. Hillary brings negative; it's fair to hit her back with negative. Mr. Obama brings hope, and speaks of a better way. He's not Bambi, he's bulletproof. The biggest problem for the Republicans will be that no matter what they say that is not issue oriented-"He's too young, he's never run anything, he's not fully baked"-the mainstream media will tag them as dealing in racial overtones, or undertones. You can bet on this. Go to the bank on it. The Democrats continue not to recognize what they have in this guy. Believe me, Republican professionals know. They can tell."



Well, you came to the right place then. n/t. (ericy - 2/8/2008 9:52:29 AM)


Welcome to RK (Hugo Estrada - 2/8/2008 10:15:32 AM)
This is a nice community. I find RK to be one of the most civil political blogs on the internet. I hope that you will stay after the primary is over.


Iraq as an issue (Terry - 2/8/2008 10:09:50 AM)
I can't believe that I am in agreement with everything Noonan says here. Another thought on McCain v. Clinton that I had not thought about was talked about on the morning shows this morning -- McCain's whole focus will be on "winning" the war in Iraq and not "putting up the white surrender flag." He can't make the economy the main issue because he said himself he doesn't know much about the economy..So, if Hillary is our nominee the fight will be between a war hero who will use fear and patriotism to try to sway votes v. someone who has at best had two different positions on the Iraq war. I do not doubt for one minute that if this is the scenario that comes out, Hillary will switch her position on Iraq. DO WE REALLY WANT THAT???? I KNOW I DON'T! Obama has been against the war from the beginning and can make the distinctions between his position and McCain's much easier. The American people do not want to stay in Iraq but if we have McCain v. Clinton the arguement will change.

And yes, there is the matter of likeability...even Republicans who don't agree with Obama have publicly admitted that they like him personally and that his positive message of hope will be very hard to fight against.

Finally, it seems to me that every poll for months that matches Clinton and Obama v. McCain shows that Obama does better than Clinton and, in recent polls, Obama wins and Hillary loses. We simply cannot afford to lose the White House again.



I know about two Republicans (Hugo Estrada - 2/8/2008 10:12:25 AM)
Who are going to vote for Obama because they don't want to see a Hillary presidency.

To me, that shows the level of Hillary-phobia that there is with Republicans. If they are willing to vote in a Democratic primary to avoid having her as potentially president, you know that if Hillary wins the nomination they are going to be active to get McCain win.

As for Obama, they like him, so they wouldn't mind him becoming president.



My argument exactly! (AnonymousIsAWoman - 2/8/2008 10:14:24 AM)
Don't forget Ann Coulter's stirring endorsement of Hillary, which she repeated on NBC Today this morning.

The truth is that if Hillary wins, it will energize a base that would happily stay home in November if Obama is the nominee.

In fact, the Republican base and the true conservatives are hoping their party loses in November because, in their minds, they think it's the discipline the GOP needs and deserves for abandoning conservative principles.

Their narrative is that if the Republicans lose this year, they will come "roaring back as they did in 1980, 1994, and 2000."  Those were Ann Coulter's words, as reported while she was on the air on NBC.  

I don't agree that they will come roaring back, of course, but the point is if Obama wins, the conservatives sit on their hands and they stay home in November because they hate McCain.

Then we get Congress and the presidency and finally get to show, once again, that Democratic policies and principles work better at solving this country's problems.



Agreed (sandandrew - 2/8/2008 12:10:37 PM)
Nothing would give the right more ammunition than a Clinton candidacy. They are already foaming at the mouth hoping she will win the nomination.

See also: http://www.andrewhersey.com/bl...