Iowa Caucus - Place Your Bets!

By: code
Published On: 1/2/2008 6:49:53 PM


Tomorrow evening Tonight (1/3), the fun begins. This is an open thread to "place your bets" on the outcome of the Iowa Caucus.

Sound off!

Winners: Nobody!
Myself, DanG, and Lee Diamond came close, but we all pretty much gave Richardson's 2% to Edwards. What a crazy night!

UPDATE BY ROB: Rumors swirling that Obama is about to pick up second choice support from Biden and Richardson.

UPDATE BY Code: Richardson, More than Rumors! Now there's "sources." Biden, nothin' doin' (thanks to WillieStark).





Comments



My Prediction (code - 1/2/2008 6:52:43 PM)
Obama - 38%
Edwards - 35%
Clinton - 32%
(read: nail-biter)


That's as good a guess as any (Lowell - 1/2/2008 9:44:57 PM)
but who the heck knows.  It could be a long night tomorrow!


Come on Lowell (relawson - 1/2/2008 10:24:29 PM)
Venture a guess ;-)

If I am dead on, I can ride that for at least a couple of months ;-)  If I am way off, well, I'll come up with some explanation ;-)



OK, my guess. (Lowell - 1/2/2008 11:31:17 PM)
Obama - 32%
Edwards - 29%
Clinton - 27%
Richardson - 5%
Biden - 5%
Dodd - 1%
Kucinich - 1%
Gravel- 0%

Very similar to Chris Guy's predictions; hopefully mine add up to 100% as well! :)



I'm picking Gravel will beat Kucinich (relawson - 1/3/2008 12:06:44 AM)
OK, I think you are way off on the bottom 5 ;-)  My numbers need to add up to 8% for my other prediction to be correct.

Biden       4.2%
Richardson  3.4%
Dodd        2.6%
Kucinich   -0.4%
Gravel     -1.8%



Ooops didn't change my subject ;-) (relawson - 1/3/2008 12:08:22 AM)
I'm having too much fun with the future of our nation.


Where do Richardson and Biden go? (DanG - 1/3/2008 12:47:49 PM)
If a candidate doesn't break 15%, his supporters must go elsewhere to caucus.  Meaning Clinton, Edwards, and Obama are the ones who can benefit.  

We already know Kucinich's 1% goes to Obama, making it Obama 33%, Edwards 29%, Clinton 27%, and the rest having to take sides.

Also, a caucus is NOT OVER UNTIL ONE CANDIDATE BREAKS 50%.  So this CAN'T be the endgame.  Sombody had to break 50% for this to end, which means some of the major candidates supporters may have to change sides depending upon the results.



Richardson and Biden (Lowell - 1/3/2008 12:49:02 PM)
are going to Obama.


Then the numbers will be closer too (DanG - 1/3/2008 1:19:11 PM)
43% for Obama, which would be a stomping.


But according to Jerome Armstrong at MyDD: (Chris Guy - 1/3/2008 1:27:58 PM)
I wouldn't place much in whatever Biden or Richardson tell their supporters about whom to go to for second choice. It just doesn't work that way. If they are not viable, the people already have their second choice in mind, the viable candidates will have representatives there making the pitch for each of their candidates.


Wow (DanG - 1/3/2008 1:56:50 PM)
Hillary's people are really nervous, aren't they. ;)

It'll have an impact, make no mistake.  These people are incredibly dedicated to the candidate they support.  They have to be if they've stuck around this long, even when they know victory is impossible.  They WILL care what their candidate says.  Will it be the only factor?  Of course not.  But it'll be a major one.



Agreed (Lowell - 1/3/2008 1:57:40 PM)
n/t


Scared (NGB - 1/3/2008 2:14:30 PM)
Anyone else scared that Obama is going to turn out to be Dean?  I hope/think he might pull IA off and then win NH, but man am I afraid his numbers aren't real.


Certainly possible (DanG - 1/3/2008 2:52:22 PM)
We'll know tonight.


I Hear Whining (Lee Diamond - 1/3/2008 9:18:30 PM)
Who are all these whiners?  Obama is writing the  text book for the Democratic Party.  


It would have an impact if the candidates themselves do it (WillieStark - 1/3/2008 3:21:30 PM)
The candidates would have to go on TV and tell people to do that. It cant come down through the campaign structure.

It would have some impact. But everyone knows who most peoples 2nd choice is. I think it will be a close race for first between Edwards and Obama with Clinton not too far behind in third.

Anyone know what this does to Clinton if she comes in third?



Yes they are nervous (Chris Guy - 1/3/2008 4:35:03 PM)
but Jerome said today he's rooting for Edwards.

I expected him to favor Obama. He's been especially rough on him recently, but so has Markos and he leans Obama if I'm not mistaken.  



I agree Chris: people aren't that sheep-like (PM - 1/3/2008 5:51:24 PM)
Even if there were deals, which is now being refuted by the campaigns, I think people who go out to caucus for a few hours on a freezing night are pretty strong willed and have formed strong opinions.

If you are going into a house and planning on voting for Biden or Richardson, you must have an aversion to the top three.

To overcome that aversion, it seems to me that you'd need more than a suggestion from your favored candidate.

 



RingRing (Lee Diamond - 1/3/2008 9:14:40 PM)
Hillary ain't likely to be anyone's second choice.  They'll go to another change agent as second choice.


conflicting reports on this (WillieStark - 1/3/2008 3:19:05 PM)
No way do the richardson people go to Obama. If he thought that he would come right out and tell them to go to Clinton.

Biden is on the record saying there will be no deals. Looking for the link to that now.

But i still think your numbers are pretty close as to the final tally.



Biden not going Obama (WillieStark - 1/3/2008 3:43:24 PM)
I dont know how to do the imbedded link so here is the link to the info from Biden.

He is not going to Obama.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/...



NOT OVER UNTIL ONE CANDIDATE BREAKS 50% ??? (Jim W - 1/3/2008 3:25:02 PM)
The training materials say that each viable group gets delecates.  

http://www.iowafirstcaucus.org...

Where did you get 50%?  Fifty percent applies to the national convention. Does any state have a similar rule, and if so at what level?  



I was mistaken on that one (DanG - 1/3/2008 4:00:48 PM)


The only place 50% is required is at the convention in Denver. (Tom Counts - 1/4/2008 9:13:33 AM)
Don't forget that the DNC rules allocate candidates' delegates proportionally -- NOT WINNER TAKE ALL -- according to the % of votes in primaries or caucuses in each state. In the case of a caucus each alignment/realignment progresses until there are no longer any candidates under the 15% "viability" threshold, at which point the caucus ends and the number of delegates each of the remaining viable candidates get the same % of delegates as the % of votes they received.

Of course, the same is true in a Preference Primary state like Va., the only substantial difference being the Primary vote determines the delegate distribution % and the non-viable (below 15%) candidates get no dlegates from that state.

The GOP process, at least in a caucus state, is that the don't have a viability threshold, presumably (snark) none of their candidates are viable.

The Dem. vs GOP turnout differential was absolutely wonderful, with IA Dem. turnout over twice the GOP turnout.
With that major disparity, it seems a virtual certainty that the Dem. nominee will turn traditional red IA to blue, remarkably similar to what happened in Va. in 2006.

                       T.C.



Isn't that 105%? (Rebecca - 1/2/2008 10:57:58 PM)
Are you counting on vote fraud? Your numbers add up to over 100%.


Finally! (code - 1/2/2008 11:24:15 PM)
Ha! Yeah. I did that as a joke and was hoping somebody would notice! :)


I have no prediction (The Grey Havens - 1/2/2008 7:35:09 PM)
The crystal ball is just too murky here:

It's a total crap shoot tomorrow and it all depends on turnout.

RCP has a rolling average with Obama at 29%, HRC at 28.6%, and Edwards at 26%.

Anything can happen inside of those numbers.

I can say that I'm personally hoping for a HUGE Obama win, because quite frankly he's the only one who keeps HRC out of the White House.  An Edwards win in Iowa just assures Hillary the nomination, and the Republican base is too assbackwards to give the nomination to the only guy who can beat her in the general, McCain.

The rest of the Grim Old Pygmies over there are too fatally flawed to have a chance in this environment.  



How much recognition? ;-) (relawson - 1/2/2008 7:41:37 PM)
OK, I think the polls are wrong.  

My guess is that it will be

Edwards 34%
Clinton 33%
Obama  25%
Others 9%

Here are the 2004 results for comparison


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2...
John Kerry 37.6
John Edwards 31.8
Howard Dean 18.0
Richard Gephardt 10.6
Dennis Kucinich 01.3
Wesley Clark 00.0 (didn't campaign)
Uncommitted 00.5


Isn't that a total of 103%? (Rebecca - 1/2/2008 11:00:33 PM)
I guess there must be some extra votes hiding out somewhere.


I just can't count (relawson - 1/2/2008 11:17:09 PM)
I guess the "others" are only getting 8%.


here goes (Chris Guy - 1/2/2008 9:22:04 PM)
Obama - 32%
Edwards - 30%
Clinton - 26%
Biden - 5%
Richardson - 4%
Dodd - 2%
Kucinich - 1%
Gravel - 0%


This is great! (Rebecca - 1/2/2008 11:02:02 PM)
This is great. You percentages add up to 100%.


show off (relawson - 1/2/2008 11:17:46 PM)
with his fancy numbers that add up ;-)


Poor Grandpa Simpson... (Lowell - 1/2/2008 11:03:02 PM)
...er, Mike Gravel.


The bottom tier (tx2vadem - 1/3/2008 12:14:37 AM)
So, how do Kucinich, Dodd, Richardson and Biden get any votes?  Are any of them garnering at least 15% in any one of the 1,784 precincts in Iowa?  If not, that would mean zero for them.  With the three superstars sucking all the votes up, it is hard to see the others getting 15% at any precinct.  That is a tall order if the polls are accurate.  If those statistical samples broadly represent the mood at a precinct level, then tough cookies for the rest of the field.


Catholic precincts in Waterloo and Dubuque (teacherken - 1/3/2008 6:54:25 AM)
are places where Biden might well reach 15%


Iowa (South County - 1/2/2008 9:38:16 PM)
Its been too close to call the last 7-10 days, I've been concerned that Obama (my choice) peaked too soon with the Oprah appearances about three weeks ago, but I think he has finally settled into the lead.  I think he wins it tomorrow.  If he takes it, it'll be interesting to see what the Clinton camp does to respond moving on to NH, because you know they will not go quietly.  They sent former Governor Vilsack out to provide advance spin on a possible third place finish today.  However, they don't have much time to recover between the NH vote on Jan. 8.


Iowa is 95% White and Conservative (veryblue - 1/2/2008 9:47:25 PM)
Clinton -- 33.234%
Obama - 32.009%
Edwards - 30.001%
Rest ... %%%

In 2012 Iowa and NH will be part of the Super Tuesday primary, in May...

 



Good to include the rest, just to be covered. (Rebecca - 1/2/2008 11:02:56 PM)


White, yes. But Conservative? (Chris Guy - 1/2/2008 11:23:05 PM)
It's as purple as purple can be. Besides even if that were true, Edwards seems to get more support from Republicans and Obama gets more support from Indys.  


Fat chance GOPs and INDs will caucus with DEMs (demdiva - 1/3/2008 11:27:29 AM)
DEM caucuses in Iowa are pretty much the terrain of regularly active DEMs and unions.  I was there in Davenport 4 years ago wearing an orange hat trying to get outsiders to caucus for Dean.  So many people told me that they were definitely caucusing for the FIRST time for Dean, that they considered themselves Indy or GOP and his message of fiscal/social responsibility/health care for all resonated strongly for them.
I'm sure most of them stayed home on caucus night, having every intention of going, but figuring Dean was a shoe-in.  We expected the armies of people coming into the precincts were for Dean, only shocked to find out they were there for Kerry and the legions of Deaniacs standing helplessly in the orange-hat section behind the rope.  Painful.


According to David Yepsen of the DMR (Chris Guy - 1/3/2008 12:42:47 PM)
40% of Dem Caucusers are Independents and 5% say they're Republicans. That means only 55% are actually Democrats, and the Des Moines Register was the most accurate polling outfit 4 years ago in predicting Iowa.


Well .... Chris (demdiva - 1/3/2008 11:22:14 PM)
I guess you're right.. looks like I'm going to Florence, SC on the next two weekends to work for Hillary.  


What Year Is It? (Lee Diamond - 1/3/2008 9:21:52 PM)
Good God......even if you don't believe.


And by this you mean..... (demdiva - 1/3/2008 11:20:10 PM)
exactly what do you mean?


Obama wins (sndeak - 1/2/2008 10:04:29 PM)
Iowa
It's tight but I think Obama will pull it out by 3-5 points.
Iowa - Democrats
Obama 30
Edwards 27
Clinton 26

Iowa - republicans
Huckabee 32
Romney 30
McCain 21  



I'm hoping (legacyofmarshall - 1/2/2008 10:07:07 PM)
for something different but my guess is that all three top Dem. candidates will get within 5% of each other.  Something like...

Clinton: 32%
Edwards: 31%
Obama: 29%

For Republicans:
Huckabee: 35%
Romney: 35%
McCain: 17%

I know very little about the Republican numbers.  Yeah, I know McCain polls way below that, but while I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, a state's Republican population can't honestly be so stupid as to stick him in fourth or fifth place.

PS - code's numbers add up to 105%, and that's just for three of the eight candidates!

PPS - I'd also like to laugh at the map of Iowa.  the counties are a perfect grid - what did they pick the top 40 Iowans throughout history, divide the land equally, and name a plot for each one?  Please... Virginia's oddly shaped 300-year-old counties are so much cooler.



Gave you a 4 for the 'counties' observation (8thDistrictDonkey - 1/3/2008 1:07:03 AM)
When traveling throughout this beautiful state, I like the fact that our county lines are often formed by rivers and mountain ridges (esp. SWVA).  What better way to define counties than by their natural beauty?


Too close to call, but my guess: (Barbara - 1/2/2008 10:35:25 PM)
Obama - 32
Clinton - 30
Edwards - 25

Huckabee - 31
Romney - 27
McCain - 15



I noticed that too. (Rebecca - 1/2/2008 11:03:56 PM)


I meant the Obama endorsements from other candidates (Rebecca - 1/2/2008 11:05:26 PM)


Obama 2nd's (code - 1/2/2008 11:29:08 PM)
I think those "others" endorsements are gonna be huge tomorrow. We shall see.


My Picks (novademocrat - 1/2/2008 11:39:56 PM)
Obama 31%
Clinton 26%
Edwards 24%
Biden 9%
Richardson 7%
Everyone Else 3%


My Iowa Prediction (tx2vadem - 1/3/2008 12:06:21 AM)
Colonel Mustard in the Library with the lead pipe.  ;)


My picks (8thDistrictDonkey - 1/3/2008 1:11:32 AM)
Good guys:

Obama - 34%
Clinton - 30%
Edwards - 27%
Richardson - 4%
Biden - 3%
Dodd - 2%

Bad guys:

Romney - 31%
Huckabee - 29%
McCain - 19%
Thompson - 13%
Giuliani - 8%



I'm superstitious . . . (JPTERP - 1/3/2008 2:36:34 AM)
so I'm not going to venture a guess here as to the actual numbers.  I just hope that Obama wins.

It also looks like Obama may have brokered a deal with Richardson which should help.

http://www.iowaindependent.com...

The Kucinich support is also likely to be helpful in a close race.

I think in the end that Obama will need it, because of his reliance on first-time caucus goers.  I would not be surprised to see Edwards outperform expectations given that his support is rock-solid and caucus tested.  No last minute jitters are likely to sway his support base.

I am also anxious to see the overall caucus going turnout numbers.  There's a pretty good chance that the Dems will smoke the GOPers in this purple state, which serves as a favorable early indicator for 2008 regardless of who wins tomorrow.  (FWIW, I think Obama needs to win in order to pull independent support in the New Hampshire primary.  If Obama finishes 3rd, I think there's more than a little chance that the independents who voted for McCain in 2000 in New Hampshire will lean once again in his direction -- one reason that McCain has been surging while Obama's numbers have taken a hit in that state recently.  If Obama wins Iowa, I think he has a very good chance to pull out another narrow win in New Hampshire based on an Iowa bounce.  A victory by 4 to 5% points would be huge -- although I think a margin of less than 1% is his most likely victory scenario).    

I am anxious to see how this one plays out -- it's been a long, long primary season.



No deals, say other campaigns (PM - 1/3/2008 5:20:30 PM)
The latest from the Iowa Independent says all campaigns are saying "no deals."  http://www.iowaindependent.com...



Anyone know when the Iowa caucuses end? (mkfox - 1/3/2008 3:32:46 AM)
My guess is:
Edwards 32%
Obama 30%
Hillary 28%
Dodd 6%
Biden 3%
Richardson 1%


Zogby shows last minute Obama gain (PM - 1/3/2008 9:47:35 AM)
http://www.zogby.com/news/Read...

Zogby now has Hillary in third on his final day of polling -- and his seven point spread is the same gap as the Des Moines Register.

(How many people are refusing to answer their phones at this point is anyone's guess.)

I wonder who Pat Robertson is predicting will win Iowa?  If you can find out, it will probably be the other way around.  http://hamptonroads.com/2008/0...

Robertson acknowledged Wednesday that his prophecy of a nuclear terror attack in 2007 failed to unfold.

He also cited information from God when he predicted on a year go that major U.S. cities would be hit by "very serious terrorist attacks" causing "possibly millions" of deaths.

No such catastrophe occurred.



crystal ball (snolan - 1/3/2008 9:50:25 AM)
Obama: 32% - a clear message for change begins to be heard
Clinton: 24% - disappointing for her, but deep pockets will keep her in race
Edwards: 24% - hanging in there close to make it up in South Carolina
Richardson: 17% - shocking jump at the end guarantees him running-mate to someone

Huckabee: 38% - nauseating lead he will not keep in New Hampshire
McCain: 31% - gah, he's still in this thing, but not for long
Romney: 29% - surprisingly close, and New Hampshire is his friend
effectively ending it for Gulianni - hurrah!

Furthermore I predict that Edwards will get even closer in NH and come out on top in SC, but not by enough to knock out either Clinton or Obama!!!

On the R side, Romney will crush everone but McCain & Ron Paul (and beat them both narrowly) in NH and that Huckabee will snag SC by a narrow margin...  the killer is will McCain be close enough second to win the nomination, or will Huckabee's two victories be enough for the Rs to ignore the Northeast entirely?

November: any of the top three Dems vs McCain or Huckabee



Iowa (Veritas - 1/3/2008 10:19:16 AM)
Obama 33%

Clinton 31%

Edwards 31%

Richardson 5%

I think Obama takes it even though, I want Edwards to win...



correction (Veritas - 1/3/2008 11:35:35 AM)
I meant Obama 30%
Clinton 28%
Edwards 27%
Richardson 15%


Predictions (PWC Resident - 1/3/2008 10:41:11 AM)
Obama - 33%
Clinton - 31%
Edwards - 29%
Richardson - 6%
Biden - 7%
Dennis K- 3%
Dodd - 1%

Huckabee - 32%
Romney - 30%
McCain - 14%
Paul-11%
Thompson - 8%
Giuliani - 5%



What the hell :-p (citizenindy - 1/3/2008 10:48:34 AM)
The Blue People

Edwards 31
Hillary 28
Obama   26
Biden    7
Dodd     5

The Red People

Romney     33
Huckabee   30
McCain     14
Thompson, Giuliani, Paul high singles in that order  



I hope you are correct (snolan - 1/3/2008 11:59:15 AM)
I don't think it will go this way - but I want the prediction you have to be much closer than the one I have above...

Go Edwards!
I'd like to see Romney do well in Iowa because that means it is harder for McCain and Huckabee to do well afterwards...   I am no Romney fan, but I despise both McCain and Huckabee.



It looks like Richardson (Lowell - 1/3/2008 12:04:03 PM)
may have decided to back Obama in the second round of voting tonight, in caucuses where he's not "viable."  That would almost certainly clinch it for Obama.


Yeah (citizenindy - 1/3/2008 12:08:00 PM)
Thats what helped Edwards in 2004

So much for the pols saying Edwards was the most popular second choice thats what my prediction was hinging on

I have nothing against Obama its just if he does well tonight that causes some real headaches for McCain in NH

He still has to see if the youth people actually come out and vote

We shall see soon :-)



That would be very nice... (snolan - 1/3/2008 3:06:26 PM)
I'd like to see Edwards or Obama win the election in November.


I've been in touch personnally with the top three campaigns (Used2Bneutral - 1/3/2008 12:14:41 PM)
many of the kids and key activists who worked so hard here in Virginia through November are out there getting freeze dried..... just my impressions from talking to those to whom I have done so, Edwards and Obama are really going at it full tilt..... Even though Edwards hasn't had the same money the other two leaders have had, he has apparently visited so many families both this election cycle and last that he has much more face-to-face almost one on one contact. I'm told this means a lot more for especially the caucus system.

No matter what, we have a group of at least three candidates who have done us proud..... all of them....

It will be curious whom of them if ANY would accept the VP role this summer..... even though thats a long way off right now.



Obamaania (humanfont - 1/3/2008 12:28:22 PM)
Obama 48
Clinton 33
Edwards 15
Others - 4

Obama is the stop clinton candidate.  All the richardson, biden, etc folks who don't get viability will rally round Obama.  In the caucus room they will all start talking about who is the anti-Hillary candidate.  Obama gets the nod because he's the fresh face.

I have no idea on the other side but my gut says McCain suprises everyone.  Thompson sounds like he's dropping out; and that will hurt him by at least 2%



Predictions (Doug in Mount Vernon - 1/3/2008 3:32:09 PM)
As someone who witnessed caucusing in Ottumwa, Iowa in 2004 as a disappointed orange-hatter, here is my best guess:

Obama 39%
Edwards 27%
Clinton 26%
Richardson 8%
Others--negligible & draw no delegates

Richardson's (and Biden's & Kucinich's) unviable precincts will push Barack into the high-30's, while some last minute defections from Edwards to Obama will push his numbers down a bit from the 30-ish mark.  Clinton holds on in lots of aging precincts but loses big time in the cities and university towns.  Richardson will draw vaibility in about half the precincts, giving him roughly 8% of delegates statewide.

Whoever stated that a candidate MUST reach 50% is INCORRECT.  The precinct judge can ASK delegates to join other camps in HOPES that happens, but no one is forced to beg off from a candidate who hits the magic 15% mark.  Unless the number of delegates is so small from the precinct that 15% won't be enough to capture one of them, this idea is incorrect.  Even then, no one is forced to join any candidates caucus group if they are not comfortable doing so.



delusional (WillieStark - 1/3/2008 3:36:57 PM)
The day I listen to what a Deaniac from IA in 04 says about the caucuses.....


Republicans in Iowa (Doug in Mount Vernon - 1/3/2008 3:36:00 PM)
I think there will be a few surprises:

Huckabee 35%
Romney 23%
Paul 19%
McCain 17%
Thompson 5%
Others...Negligible

Big win for the Huckmeister, and a shockingly strong showing from Ron Paul...



my picks (S. Becker - 1/3/2008 3:36:49 PM)
Obama    35%
Edwards  31%
Clinton  30%
Others    4%


You look to be the closest so far (relawson - 1/3/2008 10:51:17 PM)
Well played!


Brian Moran to File for Va. Governor (Timothy Watson - 1/3/2008 4:21:09 PM)
Not a big surprise there:

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=2...



Weird electronics market predictions (PM - 1/3/2008 5:24:57 PM)
I frankly don't understand these electronics markets predictions.  For whatever it's worth, the latest Iowa market has Hillary winning big (which seems counterintuitive).  For whatever it's worth:  http://www.iowaindependent.com...

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton leads the Democratic market at 57.5 cents. Barack Obama is at 30.8 cents and John Edwards is third at 10.6 cents.

Prices on both sides are likely to shift rapidly overnight as the caucus results are reported.  The nominations are a winner take all market; winning shares pay a dollar and losing shares are worthless.

If someone could explain how these markets work, it would be much appreciated.



Important Sabato point: votes don't determine delegate allocations (PM - 1/3/2008 5:55:37 PM)
Larry Sabato notes:

It would require a separate column to explain the process in detail, but suffice it to say that it almost takes a PhD in mathematics to advise Iowa Democrats on their delegate allocation formula. The party even refuses to release the simple hand-count of caucus participants for each presidential candidate, making public only the final delegate allocations. Thus, the raw popular votes for the candidates, which can differ considerably from the weighted delegate allocations, are never known.

Sabato



Revising my poorly worded title (PM - 1/3/2008 5:58:17 PM)
I should have said something like "Raw votes don't reflect final delegate allocations"


Edwards will win with... (mikeporter - 1/3/2008 6:32:11 PM)
Edwards 36%
Obama 30%
Clinton 24%

I have made the boldest Edwards prediction yet.



Better put up my guess (DanG - 1/3/2008 6:48:45 PM)
Obama 37%
Edwards 33%
Clinton 30%

This is assuming that nobody else breaks 15%, which, of course, I am.

Edwards loses Iowa, and see little reason to stick around.  He may drop out, he may not.  But a second place finish is hardly going to help him jump 20 points in NH and SC.  Clinton takes a hard hit, even though it's not a huge loss.  But she loses that "inevitability" factor, and drops in NH and SC as people take another look.



Iowa predictions (vinton4sam2008 - 1/3/2008 7:35:01 PM)
  While I personally like all of the Democratic candidates I expect Obama or Edwards to win tonight. Here is how I am breaking it down for the top 3

Edwards 32
Obama 28
Clinton 27
The rest we will have to see about!

I could be wrong I think tonite will be a night for suprises. Any of the top 3 can do it. I believe it is make or break for Edwards. Obama and Clinton can survive a second or third place finish. Lets wish all of our democratic candidates the best of luck

Lets have a great 2008!



Here It Goes (hereinva - 1/3/2008 7:37:12 PM)
I am going to give Hillary a slight edge..only due to the spoiler effect of Edwards vs Obama.

Clinton: 34
Edwards: 33
Obama:   31

Edwards pulls a few Obama votes..Hillary keeps her core and brings in some conservative I's. Roll of dice may prove a more effective method !

Need to repeat: Its only Iowa, its only Iowa.  



Almost forgot (hereinva - 1/3/2008 8:25:39 PM)
Giving the R's win to "Miracle" Mike Huckabee...Romney second.

Huckabee has a strong base..who will show up for their candidate... o.k. Let the Caucus' begin !..



Prediction (Lee Diamond - 1/3/2008 9:25:46 PM)
Obama -  37%
Edwards - 32%
Clinton - 29%