Democrats
Obama: 32% (28%)
Clinton: 25% (25%)
Edwards: 24% (23%)
Richardson: 6% (9%)
Biden: 4% (6%)
Dodd: 2% (1%)
Republicans
Huckabee: 32% (29%)
Romney: 26% (24%)
McCain: 13% (7%)
Thompson: 9% (5%)
Paul: 9% (7%)
Giuliani: 5% (13%)
Still too close to call, if you ask me, but...
*If Obama wins Iowa, we've got ourselves a real race heading into New Hampshire. If Obama were to win Iowa AND New Hampshire, I'd say he'd become the favorite for the nomination. Currently, though, Obama (and Edwards) remain the underdogs to Hillary Clinton. If she wins Iowa, it's going to be really tough for anyone else to overtake her.
*On the Republican side, if Huckabee beats Romney in Iowa, that could help McCain win New Hampshire. Then, who knows, but I'd probably say McCain becomes the favorite for the Republican nomination. Unfortunately for the Democrats, McCain's probably the strongest general election candidate on the GOP side. That's why I'm rooting for Giuliani or Romney.
P.S. The Des Moines Register adds, "An analysis of likely caucusgoers' second choices showed that the results would change little if the votes for the lower-rated candidates were redistributed among the front-runners."
{UPDATE: Ralph Nader endorses John Edwards, blasts Hillary Clinton.}
As to the reputation of the Des Moines poll, the Pollster site seems to have a heavily nuanced assessment as to which poll was the most "accurate" and included this disclaimer:
If, on the other hand, we focus on the Kerry-Edwards margin, the final Zogby poll comes slightly closer to the actual result. In any case, the differences between the pollsters are small enough on all of these criteria that random chance was certainly a factor in determining which did best. And notice that everyone was way off on the final margin between Edwards and Dean, whether we compare to the entrance poll head count (Edwards +6), or the post-realignment actual results (+14).
One of the problems in assessing the final outcome is that the caucus goers can make deals, e.g., the Richardson voters might switch to any of the three top candidates.
Is the Des Moines poll an outlier? The Zogby telephone poll which shows Clinton up by 4 had a slightly larger sample (by 100 people) and was done a day later.
http://www.zogby.com/news/Read... Most of the pollsters involved, e.g., Mason Dixon, all have excellent reputations overall. Zogby is polling continuously so it will be interesting if his daily poll sees Clinton slippage.
Having said that, looking at the list of Iowa results (at RCP or TPM Election Central) it sure looks like this could go in any direction. I would not wager one cent on this race in Iowa right now.
A side note: since October a total of roughly over 44,000 people have been polled in Iowa (some may be the same people, of course). Depending on the turnout, it is possible that more "poll" votes will have been recorded than actual votes. I just find some irony in this.
Meanwhile, Ron Paul "saw money gush in through the Internet and brought in $20 million over the past three months."
Others:
Mike Huckabee: "Web site reports that he has raised more than $5 million online since the end of September."
Mitt Romney: "expected to raise $6 million to $10 million in the final quarter...supplementing contributions with millions of dollars of his own money."
John Edwards: "raised between $4 million and $5 million for the quarter"
Positive note: there's a lot of enthusiasm for the Dem candidates if they can raise all that money. (Or, big money operators think either have a good chance of being the next President.)
Also, it seems clear that yet another 3rd party or independent candidate will emerge. Probably Bloomberg, and I have a hunch that Lou Dobbs may also throw his hat in as an independent.
And then there is Ralph Nadar. Because of his endorsement of Edwards, I assume if Edwards wins the nomination he won't run.
But at the end of the day, I suspect that a third party candidate will make the difference between a Democrat or Republican winning. The million dollar question is which candidate will siphon off the most votes, and from whom.
If Democrats are lucky, Ron Paul will run and nobody else. Bad news for Democrats will be a Bloomberg run, even worse news is that he is the ONLY 3rd party candidate.
I guess my point to this post is that although a generic Democrat will beat a generic Republican, that doesn't mean that a third party won't or can't spoil things.
So don't think "Hillary can beat xyz Republican". The question is can Hillary beat xyz Republican + a Bloomberg.
Stay tuned!
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...
The Yepsen referred to is the lead writer on this for the Des Moines Register:
A few quick observations. What "will raise some eyebrows among party pros," as Yepsen puts it, is the fact that a "whopping" 60% of the Democratic caucus goers say this will be their first caucus and only 54% say they are Democrats (40% identify as independents and 5% as Republicans). Compare these results to what other polls have shown earlier in 2007 and it becomes clear that this Register sample predicts a very different set of caucus participants than in years past.Yepsen also notes that if pollster Ann Selzer had weighted the new results by party identification "to look like they did in 2004, Clinton could beat Obama 31 percent to 29 percent."
http://www.suffolk.edu/25902.html
Clinton lead widensIn the Democratic Primary, the 7NEWS/Suffolk University poll also shows that Hillary Clinton (34 percent) has opened up a significant lead on Barack Obama and John Edwards. Some 36 percent of likely voters in the Democratic Primary supported Hillary Clinton, while 22 percent chose Barack Obama, and 14 percent selected John Edwards. Lagging behind were Bill Richardson (7 percent), Joe Biden (4 percent), Dennis Kucinich (3 percent), and Christopher Dodd (1 percent). Twelve percent of Democratic voters were undecided.
The 7NEWS-Suffolk University poll was conducted from Dec. 27 to Dec. 31, 2007. Suffolk will be doing a series of polls:
This poll kicks off a series of daily New Hampshire tracking polls to be conducted by 7NEWS/Suffolk University. Each poll will consider 250 likely Democratic and Republican primary voters statewide each day. A two-day rolling average of 500 Democrats and 500 Republicans will be reported every morning at 6:30 a.m.
Why?
Because they are off the radar. These aren't "likely" primary voters; these are UNLIKELY primary voters. If Obama can surprise Clinton and Edwards by dramatically expanding the pool of participants, he could win a shocking upset victory over the "inevitable" candidate.
December 31, 2007 - Using the same polling methodology that successfully predicted the outcome of the 2004 Democratic Caucus in Iowa, InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion Research *** [shows]
Clinton has 30%, Edwards 29%, Obama 22%, with 14% committed to other candidates and 5% undecided.
The survey was conducted Jan. 28-29 [sic!] among 788 likely Democratic voters in Iowa. The poll has been weighted for gender and age. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4%.Critically, Edwards was the second choice of 62% of those who supported other candidates that did not receive the required 15% of the vote. Clinton was the second choice of 21% and Obama of 17%.
Using the reallocation methodology InsiderAdvantage used in 2004 - which correctly indicated a fairly comfortable win for John Kerry - our new poll reveals that, if the caucuses were held today, the reallocated final outcome would be:
Edwards: 41%
Clinton: 34%
Obama: 25%
"We removed from the results the percentages allocated for 'other candidates' and 'undecideds,' and then reallocated the support of those who are supporting candidates without the required 15% level of support," said Jeff Shusterman of InsiderAdvantage's research partner, Majority Opinion Research."We then merged these totals with the percentages of support the top candidates received on the first 'ballot.' This is the same methodology we used in 2004," he said.
And now yet another poll (CNN) with different results: CNN
Among Democrats, Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York wins the most support, with 33 percent of likely Democratic caucus-goers backing Clinton and 31 percent supporting Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. But taking into account the survey's sampling error of 4.5 percentage points in the Democratic race, the race is virtually tied.
The poll said that a quarter of the Democratic voters are undecided.
Not sure if we can make that leap with the Repub caucus yet...