It looks like liberal pundit Bill Press is being fooled by Rudy Giuliani's phony "liberal" and "moderate" image again when I heard him say about Giuliani on Tucker Carlson's show last Thursday, October 18 "I really do think that he's more of a democrat than a republican. He's playing a republican for the purposes of getting this nomination:"
PRESS: "But I don't know where Rudy Giuliani goes for that support. I really do think that he's more of a democrat than a republican. He's playing a republican for the purposes of getting this nomination. But I don't think the religious right is going to be fooled by Giuliani."
Right below is the transcript of this dialogue where this quote is in its full context.
This is not the first time that Bill Press has made a ridiculous statement like this about Rudy Giuliani:
Bill Press: "I would consider voting for Rudy Giuliani" if he ran as a Democrat!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on May 16, 2007 - 2:58pm.
I have previously documented that Rudy Giuliani is a hard core Neocon, that he is surrounding himself with top Neocon foreign policy advisors such as Norman Podhoretz who wants to bomb Iran, and that this is the main reason why he is the current front-runner for the 2008 GOP Presidential nomination even though he is by far the most liberal GOP Presidential candidate on the social issues:
Wolf Blitzer asked if Giuliani is a Neocon; He IS and that MUST be exposed NOW!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on June 7, 2007 - 2:00pm.
NEWSWEEK: "Who Has His Ear? Giuliani's foreign-policy team is heavy on neocons"
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 15, 2007 - 1:43am.
ANALYSIS: Why Rudy Giuliani is leading in the 2008 GOP primary polls right now!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 26, 2007 - 4:32pm.
This recent Gallup poll shows Rudy Giuliani with very high favorable ratings right now which should be very alarming to us in my opinion:
October 09, 2007
Giuliani Still on Top as Republicans Prepare to Debate in Michigan
Latest Gallup Poll shows Thompson in second place, followed by McCain
by Frank Newport
"Giuliani is the best known of the major candidates among Republicans, and is also the best liked, with a 72% favorable rating and only a 15% unfavorable rating..."
The bottom line about this in my opinion is that the Democrats MUST be able to see through Rudy Giuliani's phony "liberal" and "moderate" image and they also MUST be able to effectively articulate and expose to the entire country that Giuliani IS a hard core Neocon ideologue who will be completely sold out to Rush Limbaugh (he would probably be the next Karl Rove in a Giuliani administration) and to his Neocon GOP activist base if they are going to be able to defeat him in the general election if he is the 2008 GOP Presidential nominee:
ANALYSIS: Division in the GOP over who is "conservative" based on foreign policy
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 28, 2007 - 5:46pm.
DOCUMENTATION: Rush Limbaugh claims to & controls who the GOP nominee will be!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 25, 2007 - 11:58pm.
If that is not done and if Rudy Giuliani is ever elected President in 2008, then you can definitely count on us "staying the course" in Iraq (and who knows where else) and seeing a "third Bush term" as far as Neocon foreign policy and division in the country are concerned for at least another four years after Bush leaves office on 1/20/09!
Hillary Clinton in my opinion definitely has the right idea to tie Rudy Giuliani in with "George Bush's Iraq policy:"
Giuliani slams Clinton over Iraq war criticism
By Jeremy Pelofsky | September 14, 2007
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - "Republican U.S. presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani bought a full-page advertisement in The New York Times on Friday accusing the leading Democrat, Sen. Hillary Clinton, of "spewing political venom" for comments she made in the debate over the Iraq war...
The Clinton campaign shrugged off the criticism, saying she would still work to end the war in Iraq and bring U.S. soldiers home as quickly as possible.
"Mayor Giuliani supports George Bush's Iraq policy and believes it is working," said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. "Sen. Clinton knows it isn't and will keep up her efforts to end the war."
Giuliani also launched the first Internet video ad of his campaign to accuse Clinton of initially voting to authorize military action in Iraq and then changing her position.
"Just when our troops need all our support to finish the job, Hillary Clinton is turning her back on them," the Internet ad said. Clinton has repeatedly declined to apologize for her vote but has said if she knew then what she knows now, she would not have cast that vote.
"Instead of distorting Sen. Clinton's record in the campaign's first attack ad, the mayor should tell voters why he thinks sticking with the Bush Iraq strategy makes sense," said Singer..."
Make no mistake about it that Bush's "cowboy diplomacy" foreign policy will be on the ballot in 2008, that Hillary Clinton will take full advantage of this on whoever the 2008 GOP nominee is, and that Rudy Giuliani is just a more hard-core version of Joe "Joementum" Lieberman who is also more liberal on the social issues as well as being a foreign policy Neocon!
This is also cross-posted with comments on Gen. Wes Clark's blog:
Mitch Dworkin
http://securingameri...
StopIranWar.com: "War is not the answer"
Submitted by Wes Clark on February 21, 2007 - 11:40am.
http://www.securinga...
Listen to Gen. Wes Clark fight for Dems on Sean Hannity's radio program: An excellent example for all of us to follow and what we all need to be doing to help fight back against extreme right wing Neocon smear propaganda!
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'Tucker' for Oct. 18
Read the transcript to the Thursday show
Guests: Mike Huckabee, Pat Buchanan, Bill Press, Nita Lowey
CARLSON: So, essentially what you're saying is Mike Huckabee and to some extent Sam Brownback would both help Giuliani in the end?
BUCHANAN: They do but he can't. Brownback can't support Giuliani; he'd cut his own throat, even with his own constituents because Giuliani is just too far out there. Bob Jones enforced Romney. Of course Romney is taking a pro-life position now and a harder line on gays. But if you're an evangelical Christian leader and you endorse Rudy at this point, I think there's a real question of opportunism there, Tucker.
CARLSON: Well, I think there's a question of opportunism in the political word, Pat. I've noticed, I don't mean to pull your mind as a multi-time presidential candidate but it does, I mean, if there was ever a time for that to happen, the so-called Christian right seems to be as disorganized as it's been in my adult lifetime. What happened?
PRESS: But I don't know where Rudy Giuliani goes for that support. I really do think that he's more of a democrat than a republican. He's playing a republican for the purposes of getting this nomination. But I don't think the religious right is going to be fooled by Giuliani.
CARLSON: I think the squiggy man issue is kind of to make or-I mean, that tells you everything, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. He was anti- squiggy man. I think democrats on record is supporting a squiggy man in on record of supporting the squiggy man. I think he really is a republican.
BUCHANAN: He's got two arguments, Tucker. One of them is, I'll give you the fifth Scalia, and the other is I'll keep Hillary out of the White House. For that, the Christian right has right to trade its soul.
PRESS: And it's security versus all the social issues, Pat. And stronger are you on those social issues; they may be willing to throw them out the window. If they think he's the one that can beat Hillary.
CARLSON: Because we keep hearing that is the, that is a social issue all of a sudden.
PRESS: Crime is a social issue.
CARLSON: Wait a minute. You know what?
BUCHANAN: You know what it's not one of the ones of Mike Huckabee.
CARLSON: No. In fact, it's one of those talking points that's so deeply dishonest and that it's hard to believe that people keep repeating it and people keep buying it. I'm not attacking Rudy Giuliani, but I mean, you know, getting tough on the squiggy man is not the same as taking a consistent pro-life stand, for instance, on the issues.
PRESS: Yes. But he's number one in the national polls on that issue.
CARLSON: We'll be right back...
BLITZER: "And joining us now from the Washington Hilton Hotel here in the nation's capital is Tony Perkins. He's the president of the Family Research Council.
You've got a big meeting going on, Tony. Do you think it's conceivable if Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee you could vote for him?
TONY PERKINS, PRESIDENT, FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL: No, Wolf, I don't think I could. I do not believe that myself and other evangelicals would be supportive of a pro-abortion rights candidate. I just don't think that's going to happen..."
Bill Press is probably right when he said this about Rudy Giuliani in the Tucker Carlson transcript above:
"But I don't think the religious right is going to be fooled by Giuliani."
Whether Rudy Giuliani can or cannot keep most social conservatives will be a huge factor in determining whether Giuliani does or does not win the 2008 general election if he is the 2008 GOP nominee!
THE SITUATION ROOM
Fight for Christian Conservatives; Iraq Syndrome & Iran; Fight for Religious Right: Powerful Bloc Wary of GOP Field
Aired October 19, 2007 - 16:00 ET
BLITZER: Mitt Romney is expected to tell social and religious conservatives tonight that Republicans are not going to beat Hillary Clinton by "acting like Hillary Clinton." Romney will join the parade of GOP presidential candidates at what's being called the Values Voters Summit here in Washington.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
BLITZER: And joining us now from the Washington Hilton Hotel here in the nation's capital is Tony Perkins. He's the president of the Family Research Council.
You've got a big meeting going on, Tony. Do you think it's conceivable if Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee you could vote for him?
TONY PERKINS, PRESIDENT, FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL: No, Wolf, I don't think I could. I do not believe that myself and other evangelicals would be supportive of a pro-abortion rights candidate. I just don't think that's going to happen.
BLITZER: Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family, the founder and chairman, he said this the other day -- he said, "If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor party candidate."
Are you with Dr. Dobson on that point?
PERKINS: Well, I think that's one of the options. I think if the two choices from both parties, major parties, are pro-abortion rights candidates, that you'll have two, really two things that could happen. If there's a minor candidate on the ballot that's pro-life, they could get the support, or you end up having the third party of this engagement.
You just have a number of pro-life evangelicals that simply are not enthused and are not voting and not participating in the process. Although I do think that most of them will vote. They may vote on other issues, but there are other people on the ballot. They probably will pass on the presidential election.
BLITZER: In your particular case, would you just stay home and not vote for a president?
PERKINS: Oh, no, no, no, I would never stay home on Election Day. And I never encourage Christians not to go to the polls and vote. I would -- there are a number of minor candidates generally on the ticket...
BLITZER: But you wouldn't vote for a presidential candidate.
PERKINS: I would not vote for a pro-abortion candidate, even if it's the only choice I have as a Republican voter.
BLITZER: If a lot of evangelicals just don't vote for a presidential candidate, given how important they've been to Republican candidates over these past several decades, wouldn't that effectively ensure the Democratic nominee? Maybe Hillary Clinton would be the next president of the United States?
PERKINS: Well, Wolf, I think that's something that people need to consider now. That's why we're raising this issue in October 2007, and not August of 2008...
'Tucker' for Sept. 25
Read the transcript to the Tuesday show
Guests: Bill Press, A.B. Stoddard, Richard Land, Glen Heggstad
CARLSON: "That was the year the Republicans took back Congress. So Rudy Giuliani was like one of nine republicans in America who would talk to Clinton.
PRESS: You know, Tucker, someday Republicans will wake up and realize that Rudy Giuliani is a Democrat. He is pro-choice, he's pro-gun control, right? Pro-gay rights and now he is pro-Bill Clinton..."
Here is the video link to watch this dialogue:
http://video.msn.com... (04:55)
Bill and Rudy - penpals?
Sept. 25: Letters have surfaced between Bill Clinton and Rudy Giuliani which show how much they admired each other's work when both were in office. A "Tucker" panel discusses whether these letters will come back to hurt Giuliani.