Phillies Make Playoffs; Mets Complete Historic Collapse

By: Lowell
Published On: 9/30/2007 5:13:58 PM

I have mixed feelings about the Phillies making the playoffs and the Mets collapsing.  On the one hand, I lived in Philadelphia for four years while attending UPenn.  On the other hand, I was never a Phillies fan.  Still (yet another hand?), I've got some loyalty to the City of Brotherly Love.  With regard to the Mets, I was born in New York and was a Mets fan from an early age.  Nowadays, though, I'm more of an Orioles and Nationals fan, but I always kind of root for the Mets.

Anyway, please feel free to use this as an open thread about baseball...or other sports if you really don't like baseball. :)


Comments



Phillies can thank the Nats (hereinva - 9/30/2007 5:32:29 PM)
Nationals swept the series against NY, and then as fate had it.."presented" Phillies their Division title to the hometown crowd. Phillies haven't won the Division since 1993 !


Helps amend for the Phillies' collapse of 1964 (dsvabeachdems - 9/30/2007 5:33:39 PM)
But likely there are a lot of Mets fans doing harm to themselves in the VBDC right now.


Would have liked to see the Nats win one more game (Catzmaw - 9/30/2007 5:57:18 PM)
but they've done a great job this year and the Phillies certainly should thank them heartily for making it possible for them to take the division which was supposed to go to the Mets. 

The Amazins' had a spectacular collapse at the hands of the Nats.

As for who to root for, I was at RFK for games involving both teams, and have to say I have never met a more obscene, obnoxious bunch than the Mets fans I had the misfortune of sitting with who kept screaming really foul obscenities and suggesting truly pornographic things to the Nats bullpen.  The Phillies fans were loud and obnoxious too, but at least I didn't feel like taking a shower after encountering them.  And it's not like I'm a delicate wallflower, but the Mets fans' comments were truly X-rated.  So, all in all, not that upset about the Phillies advancing. 

We'll see what happens next year with my new hero, Manny Acta, at the helm of a team that shows a great deal of promise.



Nats gave them the division?! (bherring - 9/30/2007 7:12:45 PM)
I seem to remember 8 straight wins Philadelphia had over New York.  Sure, the Nats helped, but credit where credit's due here.


If it hadn't been for the Nats sweeping the Mets (Catzmaw - 9/30/2007 7:35:32 PM)
the Mets would have won the division.  I call that the Nats giving the Phillies the division.


And...? (bherring - 10/1/2007 1:02:58 PM)
You could say that about any series of the year.  If the Phillies hadn't gone 4-11 to start the season, it wouldn't have even been close.  It's kinda disingenuous to pick out one series or even one head-to-head match-up to define an entire season.  The fact that the Mets are a VERY old team made it very likely that they would have fallen apart at the end (maybe not as spectacularly, but it was certainly predictable).  Are you also going to say that the Marlins "gave" it to the Phillies by beating the Mets?


No, to do so would detract from the joy of wallowing (Catzmaw - 10/1/2007 2:39:00 PM)
in my Nationals chauvinism.  More than anything else I am just happy that the Nats, who were supposed to be a historically bad team, went on to compile a better record than nine other Major League teams.  Maybe the Phillies shouldn't have cut things so close or the Mets should have taken their Geritol. 


I really like the Nats (bherring - 10/1/2007 11:00:48 PM)
at least as much as I can like another team from my division.  I often sport my Democrat Blue Nats hat, and their new stadium looks GORGEOUS.  I think with a couple of good additions of some decent vets to complement their extremely talented crop of young guys like Chico, Bergmann, Flores, and Zimmerman, they could certainly be a contender at worst by 2010.  Gotta spend those bills, though, can't make the playoffs on just prospects (D'Backs notwithstanding). 


Phillies! (bherring - 9/30/2007 7:11:40 PM)
Having lived in Philly for 9 years, I was converted years ago.  And I must say this is truly one of the finest days of my sports-viewing life.  Jimmy Rollins for MVP, no doubt about it.


Having grown up... (Doug in Mount Vernon - 10/1/2007 10:35:51 AM)
...in Lancaster County, PA, I have always, and always will be a 100% Philly sports fanatic....no matter how painful or frustrating...


The year of the Cubs . . . (JPTERP - 10/1/2007 1:37:22 AM)
I figure they're the ones who are due (long overdue).

A few years ago the Red Sox ended the 3rd longest stretch without a World Series win in 2004; the White Sox ended the second longest stretch without a WS win in 2005.  The Cubs and their almost 100 year old win-less streak are due up next.

The Red Sox though look like the team to beat with their deep pitching rotation and solid offense.



Having spent every summer in Massachusetts (Catzmaw - 10/1/2007 7:47:57 AM)
at my grandmother's I developed a real attachment to the Red Sox, even though I'm from here.  So, I will be rooting for the  Red Sox from now on, but if they implode it certainly wouldn't kill me to see the Cubbies take it.  They're due.


pennant races (pvogel - 10/1/2007 7:06:56 AM)
Part of the reason baseball is still the best sport played in the usa

You can have your football games, its baseball that speaks to the heart of a statistician



Hooray! (Doug in Mount Vernon - 10/1/2007 10:34:09 AM)
Hooray for my Phillies!!

I'm so excited....although knowing the Phils I shouldn't get much more excited!



Too bad.... (Doug in Mount Vernon - 10/1/2007 10:34:33 AM)
The Eagles had to go and spoil all the good feelin' last night!


Eagles who? (bherring - 10/1/2007 1:05:01 PM)
I guarantee that the Eagles loss, pathetic and gruesome as it was, is the one Eagles game that Philly sports fans care the least about in many, many years.  It probably did turn many parties into an inappropriately somber mood, though.


The Eagles should have put two guys on (Catzmaw - 10/1/2007 2:41:27 PM)
Umenaaa ... Umenyaarra ... Umenyaruao ... Oh, you know, number 72 on the Giants.  Can't remember how to spell his name, which is a little unusual for me.


How Mets loss impacts Va elections. (SteveD'Amico - 10/1/2007 11:19:09 AM)
The Democrats in Virginia are assisted by the Mets loss and it will push us over the top on November 6th.

Many democratic campaigns workers in Virginia are Mets fans. I'll go ahead and admit it. I'm a Mets fan, and I'm in pain.

I won't out the others, but there is a good number of us who are wondering why this happened to us, and not, for example, Boston.

Anyhow, now instead of being distracted by endless playoff games, we can dig in and get our candidates elected.



Rockies (Veritas - 10/1/2007 12:34:37 PM)
here's to hoping the Rockies beat the Padres. I always like watching the Phils because their fans are so brutal. Cant wait to see them booed by their own fans in the playoffs.